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Making a murder conspiracy folks....read and watch this
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:37 pm
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:41 pm to GeauxTime9
interdasting
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:44 pm to GeauxTime9
Meh. Sounds like a guy selling interview time and/or a book.
What motive? Most women are killed in this scenario after being raped. This alleged serial killer didn't kill her for money, her vehicle, sexual perversion, etc.
Doesn't add up. Interesting, though.
What motive? Most women are killed in this scenario after being raped. This alleged serial killer didn't kill her for money, her vehicle, sexual perversion, etc.
Doesn't add up. Interesting, though.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:27 pm to Ace Midnight
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Sounds like a guy selling interview time and/or a book.
It seems that a prominent attorney that has worked on other people wrongfully convicted due to this bastard is on the case, so there must be something to it.
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What motive?
He's a serial killer. What was Steve's motive? Didn't seem like the prosecution really had to demonstrate one.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:27 pm to GeauxTime9
Very interesting.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:49 pm to Lou Pai
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It seems that a prominent attorney that has worked on other people wrongfully convicted due to this bastard is on the case, so there must be something to it.
I'm not in a position to justify the prosecution of Steven Avery, but one must admit there was enough evidence to start looking at Steven Avery's home and work outwards from there. He knew her, we know she was there, he lied about that, then recanted.
This guy seems fairly random.
There is "something to it" as you say, because there is money to be made.
Where was this theory 10 years ago? 8 years ago? Any time prior to the documentary being internationally popular?
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He's a serial killer.
Fair enough. Did he kill his other victims by quick gunshots to vital areas, not rob them, rape them or benefit in any material, sexual or other way (other than the kill itself), then frame someone else for the killing?
Because serial killers typically have a pattern that may evolve over time, but they generally stick to a predictable set of parameters.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:05 am to GeauxTime9
Well that was interesting
Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:08 am to Ace Midnight
When did Avery deny she visited his property?
Didn't he give an interview on the news the day she was reported missing wherein he said she came, took photos, and left?
Didn't he give an interview on the news the day she was reported missing wherein he said she came, took photos, and left?
Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:11 am to Ace Midnight
Watch the youtube video on the link that features the interview of the author. It seems like a very good starting point. And to answer your question, yes, the circumstances of the crime seem to align with a lot of the killer's previous cases. I don't know why it took him so long. Perhaps he just didn't know about the similarities until later.
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:04 am to John McClane
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When did Avery deny she visited his property?
He initially denied he saw her that day - then later recanted (because others, including the bus driver, reported seeing her there taking pictures of the van that was up for sale).
He also left a message on her voicemail asking where she was (implying she never showed), well after she had been there and disappeared. This is one of the reasons why his attorneys wanted to establish that others had control over her voicemail password, etc., to sew the seeds of reasonable doubt. This is another indicator of his guilt, as he was trying to alibi himself.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:05 am to Lou Pai
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And to answer your question, yes, the circumstances of the crime seem to align with a lot of the killer's previous cases.
He was all over the place. He wasn't a sexual predator (now that I've looked up him), but he was a serial killer to "get famous" - you would think he wouldn't go through a complicated plan to frame someone else if he wanted to "get famous." He also didn't confess to it after he was captured.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:18 am to Ace Midnight
Did you watch the netflix documentary? I don't think it was ever proven that a rape occurred in conjunction with the murder.
And FWIW, I'm not claiming that this guy absolutely did it. Just an interesting theory. I'm not some SJW crusader and I appreciate the need for restraint on an issue like this. But the case was grossly mishandled by the prosecution.
And FWIW, I'm not claiming that this guy absolutely did it. Just an interesting theory. I'm not some SJW crusader and I appreciate the need for restraint on an issue like this. But the case was grossly mishandled by the prosecution.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:23 am to Lou Pai
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Did you watch the netflix documentary? I don't think it was ever proven that a rape occurred in conjunction with the murder.
Yes, I watched it. I was speaking in a broader context, particularly before I looked this guy up. Regardless if she was raped or not - that is a common reason women disappear and get murdered - the murder is to cover up the rape.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:31 am to Lou Pai
If and a big If this guy killed her how do they explain the key, car and body getting on Avery's property.
I think Avery is innocent, but, I believe the cops planted the key days later and planted the car and body.
If this other guy planted the car, a burned body and a key in the house days after the investigation started that seems very difficult to not be detected.
Now possibly your talking this guy killed her, dumped the body and car on Avery's property and then the police (believing it was Avery) planted a key and blood samples to pin it all together. Maybe not knowing the other guy killed her and not Avery.
A lot of questions.
I think Avery is innocent, but, I believe the cops planted the key days later and planted the car and body.
If this other guy planted the car, a burned body and a key in the house days after the investigation started that seems very difficult to not be detected.
Now possibly your talking this guy killed her, dumped the body and car on Avery's property and then the police (believing it was Avery) planted a key and blood samples to pin it all together. Maybe not knowing the other guy killed her and not Avery.
A lot of questions.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:40 am to Ace Midnight
Sure, but I'm not sure why that is a necessary factor in determining the plausibility of this Edwards guy being the real perp. I won't pretend to be able to understand the psychology of someone like this, but it seems to me that this evil, demented person was more focused on the victims of the judicial system he created than the victims of the actual crimes.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:45 am to Buck Dancer
Agreed, which is why the two trials were such a debacle. To me, the biggest failure was the strategic, selective handling of Dassey's confession. That, coupled with the appearance of impropriety in the handling of the search/investigation should have been more than enough to meet the threshold of reasonable doubt. I realize that the documentary was one-sided and that they left some things out, but I think those reasons alone override pretty much everything else.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:50 am to Lou Pai
To me the fact that the vial of his blood had been tampered with is dispositive of the whole thing. Steve Avery is innocent. Adnan Syed on the other hand is guilty as sin.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:51 am to Lou Pai
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Sure, but I'm not sure why that is a necessary factor in determining the plausibility of this Edwards guy being the real perp.
Because Occam's Razor - when faced with a whole bizarre range of complicated theories - most often the answer is the simplest one.
When a wealthy man is killed, but not robbed - they look at the wife first. Why? She has something to gain. They weren't getting along. He was stepping out. She decided killing him was easier than divorcing him.
Like with Avery. He had a history with this woman. His GF was locked up. He did 18 for a rape he didn't commit. He figured they "owed" him one. Just me spitballing, but it is easy for me to find a simple solution for Avery to be guilty. The rest is just secondary in this case (police and prosecutorial misconduct notwithstanding - those bad behaviors do not mean Avery didn't do it - similar misconduct didn't mean O.J didn't do it, either, for example).
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:53 am to Ace Midnight
Whoever deleted her voicemail messages killed her. Had to be the ex boyfriend or the roommate because they were the only ones who had the password.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:56 am to Buck Dancer
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f this other guy planted the car, a burned body and a key in the house days after the investigation started that seems very difficult to not be detected. Now possibly your talking this guy killed her, dumped the body and car on Avery's property and then the police (believing it was Avery) planted a key and blood samples to pin it all together. Maybe not knowing the other guy killed her and not Avery.
If this guy killed her, I think Andy Colborn found the car somewhere on the highway close to the Avery salvage yard and moved the car onto the Avery property.
But, you're right. The rest doesn't make sense. Did this guy burn her body on the Avery property without anyone knowing and then dump the bones into the burn pit? I assume the property was closely watched while the investigation was occurring.
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