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re: LSU professor fired for being a spiteful woman or female dog
Posted on 6/28/15 at 6:13 pm to VanCleef
Posted on 6/28/15 at 6:13 pm to VanCleef
A couple of comments I read from the Advocate were amusing to say the least.
I had numerous professors back in the 1970's who cursed from time to time. Nobody really cared. Then again, that was a time when folks weren't looking for a reason to become offended, and yes, they were top flight professors who could have taught on any faculty they chose.
College is supposed to be an environment for the free flow of information and ideas. You are exposed to a fairly wide diversity of thought.
Tenure is supposed to protect professors from reprisal for sharing information that may or may not be mainstream, or those who didn't vote for a certain person as governor. It allows for research that might yield results contrary to a current line of public thought. Tenure saved jobs when the concept of evolution was more controversial than it is now. If it had been around centuries back when some contended the world was not flat, more would have probably spoken out. No, it is not meant to be used as a catch-all for someone to sit on their arse and do nothing. However, the protections that tenure offers allows professors to teach more freely and expose their students to a larger world. Without it, you wind up in the same controversy that Louisiana College was mired in for years (and still is to some extent) in terms of canning professors who didn't find a way to include Jesus in their mathematics courses, or who were seen by other faculty having an alcoholic beverage at a public restaurant (yes, there was a policy at that school that faculty were required to report another faculty member if they witnessed such). So tenure does have its advantages. Are there some abuses from time to time - sure, but these are really in the minority in terms of frequency of occurrence. In order to maintain a healthy college environment, tenure for staff who have earned such is necessary. Does it make you fire-proof? No. However, it does grant you the right to due process.
Again, we don't know the whole story on this particular professor other than what was reported in the newspaper, but I would suspect that more will be forthcoming as time progresses. Moreover, the professor will probably land somewhere else in good time. Hopefully, whatever she needed to learn from this experience, she will take forward with her.
In all candor, after going through a divorce from a long-term marriage myself, I can certainly understand the meltdown and/or not being as attentive to one's behavior, and the rest of you who have been there can also relate. While the use of a few curse words may be considered by some as a violation of social convention, it certainly is not a moral issue. Just about every President to have served this country has cursed. One was even stupid enough to tape it. I have known of many of a minister who did so in private conversation, and even a couple who used one or two of the so-called curse words in their sermons - to make a point. Granted, we don't have the whole story and are simply operating on what was reported in the news article. I am sure as time goes along, more will come out. However, to be so puritanical to act like life is supposed to operate like the "Cleaver family" is in itself quite unrealistic and dysfunctional.
I had numerous professors back in the 1970's who cursed from time to time. Nobody really cared. Then again, that was a time when folks weren't looking for a reason to become offended, and yes, they were top flight professors who could have taught on any faculty they chose.
College is supposed to be an environment for the free flow of information and ideas. You are exposed to a fairly wide diversity of thought.
Tenure is supposed to protect professors from reprisal for sharing information that may or may not be mainstream, or those who didn't vote for a certain person as governor. It allows for research that might yield results contrary to a current line of public thought. Tenure saved jobs when the concept of evolution was more controversial than it is now. If it had been around centuries back when some contended the world was not flat, more would have probably spoken out. No, it is not meant to be used as a catch-all for someone to sit on their arse and do nothing. However, the protections that tenure offers allows professors to teach more freely and expose their students to a larger world. Without it, you wind up in the same controversy that Louisiana College was mired in for years (and still is to some extent) in terms of canning professors who didn't find a way to include Jesus in their mathematics courses, or who were seen by other faculty having an alcoholic beverage at a public restaurant (yes, there was a policy at that school that faculty were required to report another faculty member if they witnessed such). So tenure does have its advantages. Are there some abuses from time to time - sure, but these are really in the minority in terms of frequency of occurrence. In order to maintain a healthy college environment, tenure for staff who have earned such is necessary. Does it make you fire-proof? No. However, it does grant you the right to due process.
Again, we don't know the whole story on this particular professor other than what was reported in the newspaper, but I would suspect that more will be forthcoming as time progresses. Moreover, the professor will probably land somewhere else in good time. Hopefully, whatever she needed to learn from this experience, she will take forward with her.
In all candor, after going through a divorce from a long-term marriage myself, I can certainly understand the meltdown and/or not being as attentive to one's behavior, and the rest of you who have been there can also relate. While the use of a few curse words may be considered by some as a violation of social convention, it certainly is not a moral issue. Just about every President to have served this country has cursed. One was even stupid enough to tape it. I have known of many of a minister who did so in private conversation, and even a couple who used one or two of the so-called curse words in their sermons - to make a point. Granted, we don't have the whole story and are simply operating on what was reported in the news article. I am sure as time goes along, more will come out. However, to be so puritanical to act like life is supposed to operate like the "Cleaver family" is in itself quite unrealistic and dysfunctional.
This post was edited on 6/28/15 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 6/28/15 at 6:17 pm to Golfer
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Nah. I know someone who is familiar with the situation and said the article is about 5% of what happened and she should have been let go a long time a
Then where are the write ups, the written warnings not to repeat specific behavior signed by the teacher?
What I read from the article in terms of written documentation were 18 straight years of satisfactory reviews.
Getting rid of a sub standard employee so that there are no blow backs from the employee, EEOC, or even unemployment claims, is about the simplest task a competent manager has to deal with.
Maybe the article was poorly written and factually misleading.
If not, lsu gonna pay.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 6:23 pm to X123F45
Good riddance!! She looks like a terrible human being.
Gotta love those saggy arms, hahahaha
Gotta love those saggy arms, hahahaha
Posted on 6/28/15 at 6:46 pm to Breauxsif
Would probably lay the fricking of your life on you ..
Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:00 pm to damnedoldtigah
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College is supposed to be an environment for the free flow of information and ideas. You are exposed to a fairly wide diversity of thought.
I completely agree. However, I would think these ideas would need to be on topic of the class being taught. Telling girls that their man will leave them when their pussy gets loose doesn't exaxtly fit into the elementary education curriculum or anywhere near it.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:03 pm to X123F45
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Started telling all of her female students who were in long term relationships that "once your pussy starts getting loose, he's gonna leave you".
Fired for teaching the truth?
& She shoulda gave up the booty.
This post was edited on 6/28/15 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:28 pm to 70739tigah
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She been witch hunt
Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:35 pm to CoachChappy
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However, I would think these ideas would need to be on topic of the class being taught.
Agreed. That other shite can be gotten on some of those day shows - for what it's worth...... which is damned little.
This post was edited on 6/28/15 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 6/28/15 at 9:19 pm to PygmalionEffect
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Then where are the write ups, the written warnings not to repeat specific behavior signed by the teacher?
What I read from the article in terms of written documentation were 18 straight years of satisfactory reviews.
Getting rid of a sub standard employee so that there are no blow backs from the employee, EEOC, or even unemployment claims, is about the simplest task a competent manager has to deal with.
Maybe the article was poorly written and factually misleading.
If not, lsu gonna pay
The entire class filed complaints against her on more than one occasion.
This bitch literally lost it.
When she asked the department which student filed the complaint, they told her the truth. They weren't sure if they had any of her students who HADN'T filed a complaint.
She later on tried to force all of her students to attend some wierd "money responsibility" seminar at a local hotel. Turns out she was receiving money for each referral she made. It had to be explained to her why this was unethical.
She definitely went on a downward spiral.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 10:15 pm to X123F45
You definitely have an axe to grind on every one of these threads that you start .. it is strange ..
Posted on 6/28/15 at 10:17 pm to TigahRag
So is she decent looking or what?
Posted on 6/28/15 at 10:20 pm to SabiDojo
For her age she is .. I just think this guy is incredibly close to the two stories he started threads on .. The teacher that fricked his students in Plaquemine and this lady that melted down at LSU ..
Posted on 6/28/15 at 10:22 pm to TigahRag
His tone does indicate that he personally, or emotionally, involved.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 10:43 pm to SabiDojo
I've made no secret of either.
I can't stand anyone who abuses a position of power.
I can't stand anyone who abuses a position of power.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 9:33 am to airportwhiskey
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Wow I honestly thought it would take a lot more to fire a tenured professor. I mean shite professor Mulcahy got away with much worse than this. He snuck in someone's house, groped them and then shite on himself and got arrested twice, yet he kept his job. I told this story a few months ago, but he once said in class "You know Americans are so odd. There's this huge stigma around pedophilia for some reason." He then got real quiet and blurted out "You know it's against my policy and LSU's to record me in class without my knowledge." Strange, strange guy.
I really liked Mulcahy in the late 1980's. He might have been my favorite professor.
I totally missed that whole vibe and was shocked years later.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 9:57 am to damnedoldtigah
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In all candor, after going through a divorce from a long-term marriage myself, I can certainly understand the meltdown and/or not being as attentive to one's behavior
That may explain it but it doesn't excuse it. Your job is not a counseling session.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:04 am to PygmalionEffect
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Maybe the article was poorly written and factually misleading.
If you ever see a journalist write something about a subject that you are close to or that you have expert knowledge in, you will quickly realize that they are morons.
They love to mislead the reader to spice up the story too.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:09 am to Lsupimp
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Mulcahy
Is this common knowledge?
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