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LSU New Orleans PA School
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:07 am
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:07 am
There are currently 3 PA programs in the state. One in Shreveport, one in New Orleans, and one at OLOL in Baton Rouge. Of the three New Orleans is only provisionally accredited. I thought I would ask the bastion of knowledge that the OT is if anyone knew anything about this accreditation. I assume that because its part of LSUHSC-NO the accreditation is a nonissue and they will receive their full accreditation after the program has been graduating students longer than just 3 years.
Any current PA's or Doctors who are looking to hire PA's I would like some advice. Does the provisional status really matter since the medical school would never allow a program to open that couldn't be accredited?
Any knowledge anyone has is really appreciated.
Any current PA's or Doctors who are looking to hire PA's I would like some advice. Does the provisional status really matter since the medical school would never allow a program to open that couldn't be accredited?
Any knowledge anyone has is really appreciated.
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:13 am to Coatesbathroom
Back in the late 90s and early 2000s, the Shreveport program has some accreditation issues, so it's not out of the realm of possibility. Once Ms. Meyer got there, she turned it around. I haven't heard much about the nola program, but once you get out of school and have a PA degree, are accredited by the NCCPA, and licensed by the state you want to work in, none of that stuff matters that much anyway.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:14 am to Coatesbathroom
I will say this, my brother is in the first class of a new optometry school in Massachusetts. On several occasions he and his classmates have been royally screwed over as a direct result of growing pains within the program. This has included faculty leaving mid semester, low board passage rates, and poor placement in rotations.
I'm not saying that this is the case with every school, but I'd be very wary of any new program.
I'm not saying that this is the case with every school, but I'd be very wary of any new program.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:20 am to Coatesbathroom
My SO looked into the three schools and received rec's from our two PA friends.
Was told this:
1. Avoid OLOL because it was way overpriced
2. Shreveport was the best in terms of preparing you for real work
3. New Orleans was "up and coming"
Had she chosen to become a PA, she would have gone to NO for personal logistical purposes.
She decided to remove herself entirely from Healthcare and go back to LSU for a second undergrad focusing on becoming a medical researcher.
OP, you need to familiarize yourself with the actual duties/responsibilities of being a PA. It's a great profession but you really have to put yourself on the correct track to specialize in a particular field.
SO was told that cosmetics and ortho paid much better than general or surgical
Was told this:
1. Avoid OLOL because it was way overpriced
2. Shreveport was the best in terms of preparing you for real work
3. New Orleans was "up and coming"
Had she chosen to become a PA, she would have gone to NO for personal logistical purposes.
She decided to remove herself entirely from Healthcare and go back to LSU for a second undergrad focusing on becoming a medical researcher.
OP, you need to familiarize yourself with the actual duties/responsibilities of being a PA. It's a great profession but you really have to put yourself on the correct track to specialize in a particular field.
SO was told that cosmetics and ortho paid much better than general or surgical
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:37 am to Coatesbathroom
My wife is a PA that graduated from one of the first classes at OLOL. In her second year of practicing she was promoted to lead mid-level in a major ER. She currently holds that same position in another hospital and also held that position for a group of urgent care clinics.
I tell you this because she is in a hiring position and can definitively answer your question. The provisional accreditation will not be an issue (all of the new programs have this issue.)
And to dispute another comment, she also believes while quite expensive OLOL graduate are probably better prepared over the state program. I personally know many of her co-graduates that have now gone on to great success in a very short time. Additionally, she (and many doctors she has worked with) are of the opinion (at least in her field of emergency medicine) that PAs in general are much better prepared to hit the ground running that NPs.
I tell you this because she is in a hiring position and can definitively answer your question. The provisional accreditation will not be an issue (all of the new programs have this issue.)
And to dispute another comment, she also believes while quite expensive OLOL graduate are probably better prepared over the state program. I personally know many of her co-graduates that have now gone on to great success in a very short time. Additionally, she (and many doctors she has worked with) are of the opinion (at least in her field of emergency medicine) that PAs in general are much better prepared to hit the ground running that NPs.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:38 am to Coatesbathroom
quote:
Any current PA's or Doctors who are looking to hire PA's I would like some advice. Does the provisional status really matter since the medical school would never allow a program to open that couldn't be accredited?
Im an admin, not a doc, but I do mid level hiring.
Honestly, I wouldn't take the time to look up if your school was accredited or not. If you have your state certification, and experience in the field I'm hiring for, I wouldn't even notice your schools accreditation (or lack thereof).
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:42 am to Coatesbathroom
Physicians assistant? Is that like a fancy nurse?
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:43 am to RoscoTheTiger
quote:
she (and many doctors she has worked with) are of the opinion (at least in her field of emergency medicine) that PAs in general are much better prepared to hit the ground running that NPs.
Not saying it's not true, just laughing at their "rivalry". I married a PA and have alot of NP friends.
Their level of "preparedness" depends on the type of job they ultimately take, IMO. That and the individual person, of course.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:43 am to el Gaucho
You are clearly ignorant.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:46 am to RoscoTheTiger
do they get stethoscopes?
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:46 am to MSMHater
I should clarify. Not to say that NPs do not make great providers. And it is dependent on the individual. But that there are basic ER procedures that had to be taught to several NP new grads that was not the case with PAs. A specific example is how to suture.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:48 am to el Gaucho
Nice troll...
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:52 am to RoscoTheTiger
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And it is dependent on the individual
Wonder if having previous nursing experience made a difference. I would think the NP that already had years of ICU or ER nursing experience before getting their NP would be better able to hit the ground running than an NP that never actually worked as an RN.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:02 pm to lsunurse
Thanks for all the help. I was just worried about sitting for the board exams because you can't take them unless you graduate from an accredited school. I didn't want to take all the loan and graduate and then not be able to take the boards. I assumed since its LSU-NO that it would not be a problem.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:02 pm to lsunurse
quote:
Wonder if having previous nursing experience made a difference. I would think the NP that already had years of ICU or ER nursing experience before getting their NP would be better able to hit the ground running than an NP that never actually worked as an RN.
My best NP buddy, who actually got his MBA/MHA with me after finishing his NP, did just that. He spent about 4 years doing ER shifts at LBJ in Houston prior to becoming an NP. He is very good in both a hospital and clinical setting. MY wife is a PA, but he is the provider I call most of the time for my issues.
The wife (the PA), on the other hand, is fellowship trained in her specific field. She's absolutely brilliant from an internal medicine standpoint, and is very effective clinically at managing her very large and sick patient population. But I wouldn't want her in an ER or trauma situation. Quick decisions and acute care aren't what she does best.
They all have their niches.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:09 pm to Coatesbathroom
LSUNO accredition will not be a problem.I can tell you Baton Rouge is oversaturated with NP/PAs. I had a friend who finally left and went to Houston and she got a big raise with benefits.
But PA is a great way to go
But PA is a great way to go
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:25 pm to MSMHater
PAs are trained in the medical model in same way physicians are trained as opposed to nursing model, which is different. In some cases the training as a nurse and that school of thought can actually be a liability once becoming a provider. And there can be some adjustment period to change that thought process over. Old dog/new tricks comes to mind here. Again, depends on the individual.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:25 pm to Coatesbathroom
My brother went there to get his FNP, he had numerous job offers before he finished school.
ETA; He was an RN for 17 years in Emergency medicine and Cath Lab.
Also, our good friend that graduated with him didn't have a prblem getting a job and was hired before finishing school.
ETA; He was an RN for 17 years in Emergency medicine and Cath Lab.
Also, our good friend that graduated with him didn't have a prblem getting a job and was hired before finishing school.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:27 pm to CHEDBALLZ
Very fast growing field
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:27 pm to Coatesbathroom
You will still be able to take boards with a provisional accreditation.
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