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Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:42 am to The Egg
As I got older my level dropped to slightly above average. Tested again, it is now higher.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 11:33 am to NorthTiger
quote:Screw that, I give myself shots every 2 weeks.
I have to rub on Testim gel every morning.
My story:
Was 45, went to an internist to have complete blood work done because I hadn't had one done in a while.Told him to screen for testosterone level also.
Blood work comes back, high cholesterol and low T. T level at my age is supposed to be 400-600. Mine was in the 120's. Doc prescribed me testosterone cypionate shots, half a mil every 2 weeks (1 mil/mo). After 4 months, went back and had test run again, levels had dropped to 90's. What little T my body was making ceased when I started supplementing. Upped dosage to 1 mil every 2 weeks and levels went up to 500's.
Benefits:
Muscle tone and energy levels increased dramatically. Sleep better and need less sleep. People who know me started asking if I had been working out, which I dont, but I do alot of manual labor at home (woodworking,yard work). No problems with weight gain whatsoever. No noticeable increase or decrease in sex drive, but I'm married, so.
Overall, feel it's been very beneficial to my health and lifestyle.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 11:34 am to The Egg
quote:
did you find out about your T levels during a physical, or was it just because you didn't feel the 'normal' drive?
There's a great franchise blowing up in my area. Your initial testing is free, regardless of insurance. Had a convo with my dad about it, and he had the same symptoms at around 40.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 11:37 am to LSUfan20005
quote:
Serious question, not trying to challenge you.... What are your long term plans? There's a chance you may have to stay on TRT forever, as your body down-regulates production of natural T. I know the data around this is a mixed bag, but there's evidence on both sides. Could you really do the shots for the next 40-60 years?
I'll tell you this. I don't have long term plans, but i'd rather feel normal with a healthy sex drive at my age than worry about what i'll be like at 60. If it requires synthetic T, so be it. Costs me around 10 bucks a week for life changing results.
I am also on an estrogen blocker, and HCG. Not sure if the HCG does anything yet, but doc said it would keep my nuts from shrinking.
Folks that don't have issues with sex drive don't understand.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 11:45 am to YumYum Sauce
quote:Same here, although I'm a little concerned with liver damage.
I'll tell you this. I don't have long term plans, but i'd rather feel normal with a healthy sex drive at my age than worry about what i'll be like at 60. If it requires synthetic T, so be it. Costs me around 10 bucks a week for life changing results.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 11:55 am to Tic44
quote:
FYI: My insurance would not pay for this test. I ended up paying 180 out of pocket.
Insurance usually doesn't pay for it. Most clinics have a subscriber type deal. My uncle is an MD that has a testosterone practice and they charge $150/mo and that includes all tests, shots, office visits, etc. I was shadowing him and the waiting room was never empty. Every single patient that he saw for follows up that they said that it made them feel 20 years younger.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 11:59 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:
FYI: My insurance would not pay for this test. I ended up paying 180 out of pocket.
I've heard this before, its not just you.
In healthcare, insurance lags way behind science.
This is true. It took 16 years of lobbying before CMS finally decided to paying for exercise therapy for overweight seniors to help reduce their heart attack risks.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:02 pm to WeeWee
I'm trying to look up if they'll pay for the test. Can't figure it out yet
Edit: looks like it is covered
Edit: looks like it is covered
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 2:48 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
Edit: looks like it is covered
wow nice...
Thanks Obama
Posted on 2/9/16 at 2:51 pm to The Egg
one can natiurally boost it by using cod liver oil capsules and EFA's...keeps lead in the pencil, and the only side effect being the objective
Posted on 2/9/16 at 3:30 pm to TigerBait1127
need to look up my insurance as well
Posted on 2/9/16 at 3:43 pm to bhtigerfan
I rub Testim on my shoulder or back.
After doing this for 6 mos. or a year I got picky. It takes 10-15 seconds for the gel to absorb. If you don't rub it long enough it is sticky. So, I asked that my Dr. prescribe another kind of medication. He did and that new medication felt like I had gone turkey off Testim. So, after a couple of days I called back and said put me back on Testim.
At this point, this medicine works great for me. Thank God for modern medicine.
After doing this for 6 mos. or a year I got picky. It takes 10-15 seconds for the gel to absorb. If you don't rub it long enough it is sticky. So, I asked that my Dr. prescribe another kind of medication. He did and that new medication felt like I had gone turkey off Testim. So, after a couple of days I called back and said put me back on Testim.
At this point, this medicine works great for me. Thank God for modern medicine.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 3:47 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:
Same here, although I'm a little concerned with liver damage.
I don't think injectable testosterone is toxic to the liver, particularly at the levels used with TRT.
What does need to be watched closely is your hematocrit level (red blood cells) which if elevated can lead to a greater chance of heart attack or stroke. (this was what my Dr told me)
Posted on 2/9/16 at 3:49 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
How much gel? Does is absord quickly or do you have a gel covered ball sack all morning/day? Also, is it expensive?
Where rub it - shoulder, back. No, you do not apply it to your genital area or anywhere near it. Frankly you have to make sure that nobody else would come in contact with it, though after it is absorbed that is not an issue..
Who much gel? Very small tube, less than half the amount of shampoo I put on my hair.
Absorb quickly? Define quickly. It takes me a good 15 to 25 seconds for it to absorb. If I am too impatient and don't let it absorb it is sticky.
Expensive - My co-pay covers it.
All I know is it works wonders for my fatigue and I would be one miserable person without it.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 3:53 pm to BoostAddict
quote:
I don't think injectable testosterone is toxic to the liver
I use the gel and get blood test done every 6 months. So far no issues with my blood work.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 4:06 pm to NorthTiger
damn so this gel rubbed on the back / shoulder is absorbed and then u get the boost that you need?
how instantaneous are the effects?
how instantaneous are the effects?
Posted on 2/9/16 at 4:22 pm to NorthTiger
I just started Testim gel a week ago, how long till I feel a change?
Posted on 2/9/16 at 4:29 pm to The Egg
quote:
damn so this gel rubbed on the back / shoulder is absorbed and then u get the boost that you need?
how instantaneous are the effects?
Idk if it works like that. I don't think it's like taking an adderall pill or anything.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 5:08 pm to The Egg
When I first started taking Testim my fatigue graudally improved over a 2 week period. But, like any medication, you have to find the right medicine for your body chemistry. Testim works for me. Another gel my Dr. tried did not work for me.
As for a boost, it doesn't work that way. I was very fatigued....daily. I started taking Testim and that fatigue went away. So long as I take Testim I don't feel that kind of fatigue. It is different than the tired feeling you get from working or physical activity. So, I take Testim to maintain the engergy I have. On the other hand, if I skip a day the afternoon of the first day I skip I start noticing that sluggish feeling.
As for a boost, it doesn't work that way. I was very fatigued....daily. I started taking Testim and that fatigue went away. So long as I take Testim I don't feel that kind of fatigue. It is different than the tired feeling you get from working or physical activity. So, I take Testim to maintain the engergy I have. On the other hand, if I skip a day the afternoon of the first day I skip I start noticing that sluggish feeling.
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