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Looking for some pitching sequence tips for youth baseball...
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:35 pm
I am calling pitches for my 11-12 yo team. Have had some good success so far but wanted to confirm some strategies.
For those that have called pitches in the past, what are some of your tried and true strategies, assuming you know nothing about the batter prior to the game?
We have been working on going outside twice and then coming inside...obviously, if batter is fouling back or pulling the fastball foul, then an offspeed pitch should mess the batter up...never want to give a good batter anything to hit on 0-2 or even 1-2...
I know you want to keep the batter off balance, but would be interested to know some thoughts on the subject.
For those that have called pitches in the past, what are some of your tried and true strategies, assuming you know nothing about the batter prior to the game?
We have been working on going outside twice and then coming inside...obviously, if batter is fouling back or pulling the fastball foul, then an offspeed pitch should mess the batter up...never want to give a good batter anything to hit on 0-2 or even 1-2...
I know you want to keep the batter off balance, but would be interested to know some thoughts on the subject.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 1:48 pm
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:36 pm to Chicken
see any old greg maddux tape
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:39 pm to Chicken
I am a god at calling pitches just email me and ill send you some stuff.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:40 pm to Chicken
Teach them to hit their spots and throw a changeup. Judge the kids on how they react to pitches to determine what you want to throw next. They are 11-12 years old, it isn't like the kids are up there thinking "Oh he just went away, now he's going to try and bust one in on my hands."
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:42 pm to Chicken
Work the ball outside, then inside first time through the lineup. See what fouls them up. Then go with it until they hit it. Also, a little chin music early in the first helps to set the tone. 
Off topic, I need to get my kid a new bat. What are all the psychotic travel ball families (but I repeat myself) liking this year?
Off topic, I need to get my kid a new bat. What are all the psychotic travel ball families (but I repeat myself) liking this year?
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:42 pm to Chicken
Most umps that age are much more lenient on the outside corner. I wouldn't even worry about inside at all.
As far as off speed, something that isn't taught enough at that age is bat timing and batters positioning in the box. The pitcher should be able to tell how late/early the hitter is on just about every swing. Or if he is high or iow on the ball. If he is bailing out or diving in.
As far as off speed, something that isn't taught enough at that age is bat timing and batters positioning in the box. The pitcher should be able to tell how late/early the hitter is on just about every swing. Or if he is high or iow on the ball. If he is bailing out or diving in.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:42 pm to Chicken
work outer half of plate 75% on fastballs...if you miss your spot you don't get hurt as much as an inside fastball...HBP or leave it over the middle to get smashed.
if you miss outside its just a ball.
change eye level, with fastball when ahead in the count (fastball up) then breaking ball down and away.
if the hitter is behind on the fastball, DO NOT throw off speed, don't want to speed his bat up
if the hitter is over matched, don't waste pitch on 0-2, bust him with an inside fastball
if you miss outside its just a ball.
change eye level, with fastball when ahead in the count (fastball up) then breaking ball down and away.
if the hitter is behind on the fastball, DO NOT throw off speed, don't want to speed his bat up
if the hitter is over matched, don't waste pitch on 0-2, bust him with an inside fastball
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:44 pm to Chicken
Never throw an off speed pitch if they are way late on the fastball. All that does is speed them up.
I like to throw outside a lot because most kids try to pull that pitch which results in them rolling it over to the SS (Assuming RH batter.
Unless the team is REAL good I usually to go off speed to the kids at the bottom of the lineup.
I like to throw outside a lot because most kids try to pull that pitch which results in them rolling it over to the SS (Assuming RH batter.
Unless the team is REAL good I usually to go off speed to the kids at the bottom of the lineup.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:44 pm to Chicken
At 11-12 years old just work on drilling the outside corner. Most kids are still afraid of the ball and will stand a foot off the plate. It's rare to see a kid be able to drive an outside pitch at that age.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:45 pm to Chicken
If you have a pitcher that isn't afraid to throw the inside pitch AND has good control.....you are ahead of the game.
We'd always have a plan for 1-5 hitters (mostly away)and ALWAYS try to get that first strike.
Fastball & Change-Up's are all you need if you're talking Under 15.
We'd always have a plan for 1-5 hitters (mostly away)and ALWAYS try to get that first strike.
Fastball & Change-Up's are all you need if you're talking Under 15.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:45 pm to Chicken
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never want to give the batter anything to hit on 0-2 or even 1-2...
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11-12 yo team
Just go right after the batter. They are on the defensive.
Throw strikes, change speeds, fastball and changeup are the only pitches they need to throw. Teach them the circle change.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:46 pm to Chicken
11-12 year olds?
THROW STRIKES
THROW STRIKES
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:46 pm to CadesCove
Easton Mako is legit if you want to spend $300.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:46 pm to Chicken
Totally agree with P&G86. Work with your pitchers on hitting spots. Don't ever call a pitch down the middle unless 3-0. Have the kids practice either a circle change (for good movement) or a straight change (pitcher doesn't pop his wrist, more like wiping a wall), and always throw it away.
One more thing. If you have a kid that does well hitting spots, and has a nice change, and you trust your catcher, you can work on a poor-man's cutter. Have the pitcher run it whichever way you want, and it is quite easy to teach. Almost as good as a breaking ball, and doesn't hurt the kid's arm.
One more thing. If you have a kid that does well hitting spots, and has a nice change, and you trust your catcher, you can work on a poor-man's cutter. Have the pitcher run it whichever way you want, and it is quite easy to teach. Almost as good as a breaking ball, and doesn't hurt the kid's arm.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:49 pm to Geecubed
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you can work on a poor-man's cutter.
An 11 or 12 year old is not throwing hard enough to throw a cut fastball.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:50 pm to UpToPar
That is what I thought as well, but when I assisted with a middle-school team, one of my pitchers threw it and it moved almost like a slider. I know he wasn't throwing a slider because of the spin, and his form on his follow-through.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:50 pm to UpToPar
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An 11 or 12 year old is not throwing hard enough to throw a cut fastball.
no matter how hard you throw you can still throw with movement
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:50 pm to UpToPar
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An 11 or 12 year old is not throwing hard enough to throw a cut fastball.
You don't need to throw hard to throw a ball that moves.
The kid isn't going to be Mariano Rivera, but they sure as hell can make the ball run away from a hitter without throwing hard.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:53 pm to Chicken
99% of 11-12 year olds have no shot at developing a change up. Don't bother with some of this advice, seriously
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:54 pm to MetryMojo
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Easton Mako is legit if you want to spend $300.
I've heard that. The last two Eastons we bought looked like golf balls after a few trips to the cage though. My confidence in them is pretty shaky at this point. I've heard good things about the new Rip-It, but he hasn't swung one yet.
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