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re: Long-term reliability of turbo cars/trucks?

Posted on 2/12/17 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42540 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 4:17 pm to
Timing chains and transmissions seems to fail quickly.
Posted by lsewwww
Member since Feb 2009
376 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 4:19 pm to
Would not be afraid at all. BUT 2 things to remember- 1. heat is a killer so synthetic oil should be required.
2. Oil coking (carbon) is a turbo killer and a pyrometer or a turbo timer or just some quiet idle time to cool things off can really help.

The point of cooling was driven home on a Case IH 8920 I used to drive. Pulling a 30k lb honey wagon and it was summer- Like 7 bars lit up on the pyrometer. I let it sit for 5 minutes while refueling it and down to 2 bars. If I had shut it down, the oil would have cooked/coked in the turbo. Same deal with powerstrokes or Cummins or John Deeres or Case IH turbos- let the thing cool before shutting it down or use some damn good oil, or both
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34524 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 4:57 pm to
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Would not be afraid at all. BUT 2 things to remember- 1. heat is a killer so synthetic oil should be required. 2. Oil coking (carbon) is a turbo killer and a pyrometer or a turbo timer or just some quiet idle time to cool things off can really help. The point of cooling was driven home on a Case IH 8920 I used to drive. Pulling a 30k lb honey wagon and it was summer- Like 7 bars lit up on the pyrometer. I let it sit for 5 minutes while refueling it and down to 2 bars. If I had shut it down, the oil would have cooked/coked in the turbo. Same deal with powerstrokes or Cummins or John Deeres or Case IH turbos- let the thing cool before shutting it down or use some damn good oil, or both


This has always been the case. Turbo owners should know this.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
11523 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 4:59 pm to
130K on my turbo car. No problems so far.
Posted by lsewwww
Member since Feb 2009
376 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 5:24 pm to
I totally agree. They should know it, but seen smart guys just shut the tractors off when they come in from the fields after plowing or pulling all day and just shut down.
For the ecoboost, Ford just says synthetic blend. Interestingly they upped the viscosity from 5w-20 to 5w-30. Lots of good stuff on the Ford forums and bobistheoilguy.com

7 years ago I bought a Cummins with a turbo failure and that truck still had residue of aluminum on the oil analysis for 2 chnages after that and P pulled shards of metal out of the intercooler when i cleaned the oil out of it.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34524 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 5:45 pm to
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7 years ago I bought a Cummins with a turbo failure and that truck still had residue of aluminum on the oil analysis for 2 chnages after that and P pulled shards of metal out of the intercooler when i cleaned the oil out of it.


Damn.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10252 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 6:53 pm to
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Do some homework, buddy. It's standard knowledge with anyone that has Safari turboed their 80 series.

I know enough about physics and thermodynamics to know that the increase in power you are describing, from the same size engine, burning the same fuel, is impossible. Buddy. Final answer.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 7:56 pm to
I got the 2015 with a 3.5 L reg engine.
I like it and I got 136,496 the engine runs like a champ.
To go fast put it in sport mode and around town just put it in normal driving.
I avg 22 mpg to 24 mpg.
Towed a 3,000 lb trailer 12 ft high from hotlanta to BR avg mileage 21 mpg.
Just replaced the Michelin tires at 120,000 miles. I had enough tread and I was really surprised when they pulled them off they still had some life.
Replaced front brakes at 100,000 miles.
Rear brakes are still have a lot of life.

It has been a great truck but I am going to try the 2.7 L eco boost for 2 years and see how she does.

If I would keep the truck longer than 2 yrs I would think hard about buying anything with a turbo.
This post was edited on 2/12/17 at 8:02 pm
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12593 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 8:01 pm to
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Towed a 3,000 lb trailer 12 ft high from hotlanta to BR avg mileage 21 mpg.


Come the frick on.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 8:03 pm to
I towed 3 of them and that was my avg mileage. The first one I did it with 500 miles on it.

My business partner has the 2.7 and he couldn't believe it. We looked at fuel receipts and it was close to what the avg came up to on the truck.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

Now I am sure there are people out there with 75k on their truck and say they "have no problems". However, I bet that number gets dramatically less when the mileage gets over 100k or more.


bullshite
My 06 Duramax had 330000 miles on it when I traded it in. Never had the first issue
Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13234 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 8:09 pm to
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Ford sure hasn't improved reliability in their turbo diesels over the years.


Aren't those made by IH?
Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13234 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 8:19 pm to
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Long-term reliability of turbo cars/trucks?
77k on a ecoboost. 7k dollars in repairs that Ford said tough shite


What all went wrong with it?
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 9:06 pm to
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Just replaced the Michelin tires at 120,000 miles.


I find this the hardest thing to believe on your post, out of all the things you said that sounded unbelievable.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7536 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

I got the 2015 with a 3.5 L reg engine.
I like it and I got 136,496 the engine runs like a champ.
To go fast put it in sport mode and around town just put it in normal driving.
I avg 22 mpg to 24 mpg.
Towed a 3,000 lb trailer 12 ft high from hotlanta to BR avg mileage 21 mpg.
Just replaced the Michelin tires at 120,000 miles. I had enough tread and I was really surprised when they pulled them off they still had some life.
Replaced front brakes at 100,000 miles.
Rear brakes are still have a lot of life.

It has been a great truck but I am going to try the 2.7 L eco boost for 2 years and see how she does.

If I would keep the truck longer than 2 yrs I would think hard about buying anything with a turbo.



If you are serious, you are absolutely full of shite on all of your claims.

If a troll, 0/10.

Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7536 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 9:39 pm to
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Aren't those made by IH?


The 6.0 was by IH and a huge POS. EGR failures, stretchy head bolts and head gasket failures are the norm.

The 6.4 was by IH and a little less of a POS but my 2009 F350 work truck just had $2600 in repairs at 89k (broken rocker, bent pushrod, oil leak, egr leak). Head gasket failures are less common but rocker failures are common.

The 6.7 is supposedly a clean sheet design by Ford themselves but still lots of problems.

Thank the EPA for all of the BS emissions crap leading to a lot of these issues (although the 6.0 is pre DPF/DEF so there is no excuse).

Frick Ford Diesels in the arse. If you buy one you better set aside $10k for repairs during the first 200k miles.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42540 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 9:42 pm to
I would love to hear your Vegas stories.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69018 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 9:42 pm to
sorry bro, you ain't getting 338 HP and 7mpg from a turbo and exhaust.

You would need a whole new engine for all that, lower compression, different valves and lifters.

No bolt on turbo is giving you that much. alone (with exhaust)

Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7536 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

bullshite
My 06 Duramax had 330000 miles on it when I traded it in. Never had the first issue



I've never owned a Duramax but Ford Diesels won't do that since the 7.3.

Regardless, your experience is not typical of the modern diesel experience since DPF and DEF have been required. Your truck was 11 years old and not like the current diesels.

Go buy one and see for yourself.
Posted by SECROCKS!
Member since Jun 2013
527 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:19 pm to
The 6.7 liter powerstrokes have been great engines. The 6.0 and 6.4 were garbage
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