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Liberal Art Colleges vs. Universities

Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:18 am
Posted by woodyb95
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:18 am
What are some of the differences between the two? What would be the pro's and con's of attending one over the other?
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:19 am to
Unemployment vs. employment.
Posted by To the Dome
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:21 am to
Drugs
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:22 am to
It really depends on what you study at the liberal arts college. If you study interpretive dance and only get a bachelor's, then you'll probably do fine for work, but if you get a PhD in something like jazz history then you'll be making bank the rest of your life. There's really no losing.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:25 am to
Liberal Arts focus on humanities and basic sciences, and graduate level programs are sometimes limited. Universities are more comprehensive. Obviously, if the liberal arts school doesn't offer what you want to major in, your decision is made. Otherwise, it's just a matter of which one feels like a better fit for you.
Posted by UGATiger26
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:25 am to
Well, in terms of the pros and cons, it's extremely difficult to say if one is "better or worse" than the other.

Depends on what liberal arts college and what university.

The only thing I think I could contribute here is that liberal arts colleges tend to have to a more tight-knit community feel since they are typically much smaller. Alumni feel a lot more connected and donate back at higher rates.

Bigger state and private universities offer a wider academic "menu" of choices.

When it comes to finding employment after graduation, that's all going to depend on the individual and how hard they worked, classes they took, internships they worked in, opportunities they pursued, etc. Don't let anyone tell you that if you go to a liberal arts college, you're screwed finding a job. That's such a pile of BS.

I won't delve too much into why I think a liberal arts education is important to obtain.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 9:27 am
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:36 am to
I think if you get a "generic" degree from a decent liberal arts college you're typically in a similar boat to people getting the same degree from a university. Meaning, if you're going to use your BA in History to go make 50k working for AT&T, you're pretty even.

In some cases, I think a liberal arts school rep may get you a little farther than a secondary or mediocre state U. Of course, cost may be the trade off, but a lot of liberal arts schools offer a lot of aid.

Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:38 am to
TBH, I think the ideal education would be an undergrad liberal arts degree, followed by a grad degree in a more technical field. I realize time and money make that unfeasible for many people.
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:40 am to
"Would you like fries with that" vs "Darling, should we take the Maserati or the Range Rover to the theater"
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:40 am to
quote:

TBH, I think the ideal education would be an undergrad liberal arts degree, followed by a grad degree in a more technical field. I realize time and money make that unfeasible for many people.



In terms of acquiring a classical education followed by specialization I might agree. But it depends on what you received prior to college and also what liberal arts school you attend.

4 years of rigorous liberal arts education is ideal, but if it is largely critical race theory and Japanese feminist literature it defies the point.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:47 am to
quote:

In terms of acquiring a classical education followed by specialization I might agree. But it depends on what you received prior to college and also what liberal arts school you attend.

4 years of rigorous liberal arts education is ideal, but if it is largely critical race theory and Japanese feminist literature it defies the point.


This is correct.

Take for instance St. John's College. If I could do it all over again, I'd probably go there.

It also depends on what you plan to study and how important the degree is to that field.
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3629 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Unemployment vs. employment.


Which one is unemployment? Liberal arts colleges have a ton of connections.

Hampden-Sydney, Sewanee, Davidson, the Claremont schools, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Washington & Lee.....
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
1966 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:49 am to
Change the title man. The level of stupidity is incredible, just look at the title then go over a list in your head of liberal arts universities.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 9:50 am
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35308 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:50 am to
At the undergrad level, the differences are basically size and options for your major. That's about it. The difference in the education and type of classes you would take would likely be minimal. Most large universities require you to receive a liberal arts education anyway with general ed requirements in a variety of fields no matter what your major is.

The bigger difference is for professors and their teaching vs. research expectations.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:50 am to
You seem lost in the head
Posted by woodyb95
Member since Apr 2014
552 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:54 am to
I was thinking the same.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:02 am to
quote:

At the undergrad level, the differences are basically size and options for your major. That's about it. The difference in the education and type of classes you would take would likely be minimal. Most large universities require you to receive a liberal arts education anyway with general ed requirements in a variety of fields no matter what your major is.



I think it depends. I went to a university and while you do have to take liberal arts type courses as a core, a lot of those are one or two off shots that are entirely dictated by the professor you land with (as you insinuate). For example I took two literature courses, one was broad based and useful, one was highly specialized absurdity.

Point being, depending on the liberal arts school's philosophy and the academic body, you may get a lot more opportunities to fill in those "classical education" holes a lot of us had going to larger schools. But I'm guessing the trend is away from that, so I don't think the advantage applies across the board and would be pretty school-specific.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:30 am to
Size
Athletics
Student/Faculty ratio
Mission
Name recognition
Religious affiliations (sometimes)

These are some differences, to answer your broad question.

Pro's and Con's
Don't know. I didn't go to a university for my undergraduate experience, so I cannot compare the two. Where I grew up, universities cost a lot more than other state universities other parts of the country, even with in-state tuition pricing. When liberal arts colleges cost nearly as much as the state university tuition, I chose the college route. I do not regret this decision.
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