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Jarvis Deberry Speaks on French Quarter Attackers

Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:13 am
Posted by Jim Smith
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:13 am
What a joke.

French Quarter robbers were helped by good people before attacking good people: Opinion

BY JARVIS DEBERRY, COLUMNIST jdeberry@nola.com,
NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune

Sunday morning, during the part of my church service where members of the congregation ask for prayers for others, a member stood and asked that we pray for two members of the Unitarian Universalist Association who'd been badly hurt in the French Quarter the night before. You may have seen the surveillance video of the two men - Tim Byrne and James Curran - walking on Bienville Street and being attacked from behind by four suspects and then robbed. Byrne was knocked unconscious with a blow to the head and was reported as having a critically serious brain injury.

The UUA, a liberal denomination that emphasizes "deeds not creeds," was holding its General Assembly in New Orleans. The UUA speaks out boldly for economic justice, environmental justice, immigrant justice, LGBT justice, racial justice, reproductive justice and voting rights. The denomination came to New Orleans, which could use an infusion of justice in all those named areas, only to have two of its staffers hurt. It's kind of like if the Good Samaritan decided to lobby for justice on Jericho Road and ended up face down on that thoroughfare beaten and bloody.

A UUA communications staffer I spoke with Monday had no comment about the denomination's decision to bring its big meeting to New Orleans. We can only hope that people who are so committed to justice don't give up on New Orleans. We are a city with high rates of poverty, unemployment, discrimination and -- not surprisingly, given all that -- crime. We need the help of everybody who is passionate about standing up for justice.

Of course, there are also people in New Orleans who have dedicated themselves to helping the disadvantaged, standing up for people who've been dealt a horrible hand. Knowing that the victims were in town for a religious convention made the story of Saturday's attack and robbery sad enough. Finding out Tuesday that most of the alleged perpetrators were living at Covenant House, a shelter for homeless, run-away and "at risk" youth, added an extra element of sadness.

Dejuan Paul, 21, and Joshua Simmons, 18, both of whom lived at Covenant House on Rampart Street, turned themselves in to the New Orleans Police Department Monday. Jim Kelly, the executive director of Covenant House, said Tuesday that he gave police the name and other information about a third resident of Covenant House who is believed to have played a role in Saturday night's attack.

According to Kelly, Paul, the first suspect who turned himself in, didn't say anything to Covenant House staff about what he was going to do. His arrest warrant says he confessed his crime to a pastor at a Desire neighborhood church and then surrendered himself to the police. Simmons, Kelly says, showed up at the shelter Monday night and said he wanted to turn himself in.

"He was apologetic," Kelly said. "We prayed with him. Then we called the police and they came out."

New Orleans Police Superintendent Michael Harrison said Monday that Paul was the suspect who struck Byrne in the head with a closed fist. On Tuesday Kelly called Simmons "a follower" and said he made "a horrible mistake." Kelly also said, "The other two who committed the violence were troubled kids with mental health issues."

The mission statement for Covenant House says: "We who recognize God's providence and fidelity to His people are dedicated to living out His Covenant among ourselves and those children we serve, with absolute respect and unconditional love. This commitment calls us to serve suffering children of the street, and to protect and safeguard all children. Just as Christ in His Humanity is the visible sign of God's presence among His people, so our efforts together in the covenant community are a visible sign that effects the presence of God, working through the Holy Spirit among ourselves and our kids."

The love that's offered may be unconditional, but permission to stay can be revoked. "We don't pick and choose who walks through our door," Kelly said. "We try to help every young person no matter the circumstance. But we are not a place where you can commit a crime and come back to Covenant House. If we learn any of our young people are involved in illegal activities of any sort, they are not welcome at Covenant House."

There are not many places where young people who've suffered all sorts of trauma and instability can count on finding "absolute respect and unconditional love." There are not many people or institutions willing to offer them, as Covenant House does, "protection from the streets and from their past." If convicted, these young people will have traded the sanctuary that Covenant House was offering them for the disrespect and dehumanization of the penal system.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:15 am to
Thanks for copying it so no one has to give him clicks
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38498 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:16 am to
By getting caught early on, this will allow them to deal with their issues and the law. They'll do their time for their crime, but hopefully they will get right back into school to finish earning their statistics, computer science, economics and management information systems degrees, respectively, that they were so close to obtaining.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
420863 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:16 am to
quote:

There are not many places where young people who've suffered all sorts of trauma and instability can count on finding "absolute respect and unconditional love."

this is probably the only worthwhile thing he said

as long as we aren't allowed to call social pathologies, pathologies (and treat them as such), it's a lost cause, though

and it's sad. these kids are molded by their culture and family. if people want to coddle and protect that culture, they're participating in creating a terrible life/future for these kids
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8226 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:18 am to
Jarvis is a jackass, but this article doesn't strike me as anything other than a reasonable response to a terrible situation. Also, Covenant House does tremendous work.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16400 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:19 am to
DeBerry is as bad as they get. Those punk thugs chose to commit a crime, now they get to pay the price. Being raised poor doesn't mean you have to turn to crime.


And I agree that Covenant House does great things. They can't change everyone but they try hard.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 10:20 am
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26382 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:19 am to
Dingleberry being Dingleberry...

Know how many times I was banned from NOLA calling him that...
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:19 am to
quote:

DeBerry is as bad as they get. Those punk thugs chose to commit a crime, now they get to pay the price. Being raised poor doesn't mean you have to turn to crime.


This.
Posted by ShootingsBricks4Life
Member since May 2017
2601 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Also, Covenant House does tremendous work.


Agreed. Looks like an article that is just trying to make sure Covenant house is shown in a good light. Meh.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 10:21 am
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:20 am to
Covenant House not good enough for them? Let them try the Big House for a while then.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30525 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:22 am to
quote:

They'll do their time for their crime, but hopefully they will get right back into school to finish earning their statistics, computer science, economics and management information systems degrees, respectively, that they were so close to obtaining.

Maybe they'll finish their high school degrees while they're at it
Posted by PBnJ
in your lunchbox
Member since Aug 2009
2642 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:25 am to
If the attackers were caught stealing food from a grocery store to provide for their family, I could probably find it in my heart to have a bit of sympathy. However, these low lifes actively chose to senselessly beat up two innocent men. The only remorse they feel is that they got caught.
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:25 am to
His definition of justice and the justice the city actually needs are two separate things.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5641 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:25 am to
Honestly, that one wasn't bad. Covenant House seems like they are trying to help kids in bad situations. However, being fricked in the head isn't the same as mental illness. There are no excuses for what those guys did.
Posted by rintintin
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Member since Nov 2008
16141 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:25 am to
I don't see much wrong with the article, although this quote is silly.

quote:

If convicted, these young people will have traded the sanctuary that Covenant House was offering them for the disrespect and dehumanization of the penal system.


People who disrespect and dehumanize others deserve the same treatment.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115293 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:27 am to
I despise Deberry with every fiber of my being, but that article is pretty benign for him.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11283 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:29 am to
quote:

"The other two who committed the violence were troubled kids with mental health issues."


Always an excuse.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115293 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:30 am to
quote:

People who disrespect and dehumanize others deserve the same treatment.


I understand this.

But I often wonder: What if our prisons were "nice"? In other words, what if they were clean, well run, disciplined? What if the inmates were given educations while in prison? What if they were mostly separated except during "classes" and not allowed to form gangs, etc?

It does make me wonder if more of them would come out the other side reformed instead of as even more hardened criminals.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78219 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:38 am to
Progressives literally mugged by reality.

Prayers of healing for the victims- but I assure you, no lessons will be learned from either anybody associated with the UAA, or any of the Race Grievance Industry professionals like Jarvis Deberry who enable and profit from this behavior . Progressivism, being a fundamentalist pseudo-religion, will never have a moment for honest introspection, it will just double down on the virtue- signaling and progressive orthodoxy. Being a Progressive of course, means never having to confront the truth or say you are sorry for what you have created - you just point the nanny finger at some unrelated white guy and blame him.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:40 am to
There are two things the Federal Government can do to alleviate some of this.

1. Homeless or Troubled kids (aged 16-25) who pass a psychological test should be given the opportunity to join a special branch the Armed Forces and let the military retrain back into society them by providing them with job & societal skills and a salary. Give them hope instead of throwing them in the gutter where they become lost souls. Its cheaper and more productive long term to implement this.

2. If the Homeless or Troubled kids don't pass the psychological tests then they are sent to a medical & behavioral health facility to help them cope with their mental challenges. By allowing psychologically impaired people onto the streets without medication or support is an important cog in allowing society to breakdown.

3. Children (8-15) who have been arrested more than one time should be enrolled into a military style ROTC program to prepare them for entry into the US Military.

Those are the only steps I honestly see to fixing the problem within the next five years.
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