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Inside story of the Nagasaki mission

Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98111 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:14 pm
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Seventy years ago, on August 9, at approximately 3:47 a.m. local time on the island of Tinian, a massive B-29 Superfortress aircraft roared down a tropical airport runway, carrying 13 men and what was then the world’s most destructive weapon—an atomic bomb called Fat Man. It was the second atomic bomb in existence, and far more powerful than the first, called Little Boy, which had been dropped on Hiroshima just three days earlier.

For nearly eight hours, the crew sped toward mainland Japan, each man hunkered in a cramped workspace with no access to external radio communication. Outside, monsoon winds, rain, and lightning lashed at them. Inside, they experienced moments of terror, such as when the bomb began to arm itself—a red light blinking with increasing rapidity—midway to their destination. One of them, bearing the newly minted title “weaponeer,” grabbed the Bomb’s blueprints and raced to figure out what was wrong.

The story of what transpired inside the plane carrying Fat Man to Nagasaki, Japan, has not really been told in detail to this extent, although some excellent overall renditions have been written of the atomic bomb program as a whole. Bits and pieces of the story have appeared in the diaries of the men who flew the mission—although sometimes the diaries appeared years after the event, or were based on hurriedly scribbled, hand-written notes jotted down during the flight. Scrubbed versions have been published in military archives. A couple of accounts differ, suggesting false memories or outright lies, making the whole tale reminiscent of the famous Japanese film Rashomon.

It is a story of astonishing screw-ups that easily could have plunged the plane, the men, and the bomb into the Pacific Ocean. That the mission succeeded is genuinely miraculous. New, in-depth particulars of what went wrong, recounted here in a single narrative for what may be the first time, matter a great deal.


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Posted by OldTigahFot
Drinkin' with the rocket scientists
Member since Jan 2012
10500 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:26 pm to
Very interesting. That is almost a follow-up to this novel which I found fascinating :

Posted by Pkin
Member since May 2015
222 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:27 pm to
That last paragraph makes me sick.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98111 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:28 pm to
IIRC, one of Clive Cussler's novels revolves around recovering a WWII atomic bomb from a mission that never made it to Japan.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:29 pm to
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Fat Man. It was the second atomic bomb in existence, and far more powerful than the first, called Little Boy


Fat Man wasn't even a factor of two more powerful, and that doesn't rate "far more powerful" when talking about nuclear weapons in my book. More impressive was the relative efficiency. IIRC, Fat Man was 20% efficient at fissioning its core, while Little Boy was on the order of 1%. Also, hitting your target counts. Little Boy was more effective despite being less powerful, because the aiming was better.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98111 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:30 pm to
Hiroshima was also flatter. Nagasaki had mountains that shielded part of the city.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:33 pm to
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a modern 8-inch nuclear artillery shell has about the same yield as the first atomic bomb [Little Boy, 10 feet long, 28 inches wide, and weighed 9,000 pounds].
Gaw.
Posted by Pkin
Member since May 2015
222 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:34 pm to
By more effective... You mean it killed more innocent citizens.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62712 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:34 pm to
The second bombing was entirely unnecessary.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

Hiroshima was also flatter. Nagasaki had mountains that shielded part of the city.


Definitely. The mountains exacerbated the miss, which was greater than for Hiroshima.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:41 pm to
The first one showed we had the power.

The second one showed that we were sadistic and crazy enough to use it repeatedly without descriminating. Women, children, whatever, we would buttfrick and annihilate the innocent population of anyone who fricked with us or didn't bow to our whims.

Now, since we are the only ones who have proven capable and willing to use these psychotic weapons of death, we fight like hell to ensure that no one else is allowed to even build them much less come close to using one.

We know the terror and power these weapons bring and we'll be dammed if anyone else gets a taste.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98111 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:42 pm to
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The second bombing was entirely unnecessary.


Well, the first bomb didn't cause an immediate surrender. The Japanese government was dithering, and elements in the military wanted to enact a coup to continue the war. I'm not one to say the decision should be unexamined-there were a lot of motives, only one of which was to end the war quickly. . But hindsight is 20/20. I'm not going to second guess Truman and his advisors too much, coming on the heels of bloody assaults of Iwo and Okinawa, and facing the prospect of a much bloodier invasion of the home islands.
Posted by Kel Varnsen
Member since May 2013
1975 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:45 pm to
Bunch of got damned american hating candy asses in this thread
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:45 pm to
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The second bombing was entirely unnecessary.
Ahh, frick off.
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:46 pm to
You do realize a full on invasion of the Mainland of Japan would've resulted in far more civilian deaths right? Not to mention tremendous loss in military lives on both sides.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:47 pm to
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Then they took snapshots of themselves holding all the plutonium there was in the world.

Cool. What a good read.
Posted by Rich Kotite
Coaching Hall of Fame
Member since Jan 2014
2211 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:48 pm to
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By more effective... You mean it killed more innocent citizens.



quote:

The second bombing was entirely unnecessary.



There are some very ignorant people on this board. Read up on the atrocities the Japs committed and how suicidal they were during that era before you run your weiner washers, please.
This post was edited on 8/5/15 at 10:49 pm
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:49 pm to
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That last paragraph makes me sick.



fricking pussy.
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:55 pm to
People these days have no idea. It's like they've never studied history.
Posted by Pkin
Member since May 2015
222 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:55 pm to
I'm a female. You can go fuk yourself at any given time.
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