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re: Industry expert says one third of U.S. ski resorts to shutter

Posted on 2/25/17 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 5:01 pm to
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including climate change






Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 5:13 pm to
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So with all this bitching about it being expensive, is there a niche available to exploit?


Yeah, you just have to move the people closer to the mountains or the mountains closer to the people.

Using a "Spring Break" package from Vail.com, I can get a room at The Lodge @ Vail for the low price of $5k. Check in on Monday, 3/6, and check out on Friday, 3/11. Flights for 4 from New Orleans on Southwest will be $1850, so I'm at $6850 just to exist there for 5 days.

For $8800 I can fly a family of 4 to Jamaica and stay at a Beaches resort in Negril on those same dates, and it's all inclusive.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 5:18 pm to
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Megaresort season passes are hurting the small resorts

When you can pay $600 for a season pass to all Vail resorts you arent gonna spend $50 a day on a lift ticket to go to a small place that you are bored with after a few hours.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47119 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 5:22 pm to
I tore an ACL at 36 and it wasn't that big of a hassle after the surgery.

Some people are just lazy when it comes to PT and a repaired ACL becomes a chronic issue because they skip the PT after a few visits.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34648 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 5:32 pm to
Skiing is expensive as shite
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4408 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 5:36 pm to
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Megaresort season passes are hurting the small resorts

When you can pay $600 for a season pass to all Vail resorts you arent gonna spend $50 a day on a lift ticket to go to a small place that you are bored with after a few hours.




That's been Vail's business model for the last several years -- they're buying up SOME small, cheaper, local hills and adding them to the season pass.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97614 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 5:41 pm to
I wouldn't use that shithole Jamaica as a better option


But point is you can do a lot of things for what it cost to ski for a week with a family
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4408 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 5:41 pm to
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Paoli Peaks, in Southern Indiana
Let's be honest, that isn't real skiing, is it even a mountain?



If you like skiing, yes it's skiing. If you like Disney-level ski trips, then no, maybe not.

I've got a season pass at Perfect North Slopes, and I took a couple of vacation days to Caberfae a couple weeks ago. I like skiing.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4408 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 5:44 pm to
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A little research can save you money and avoid the crowds.


Ski clubs can get pretty decent pricing as well (and the club doesn't necessarily need to be anywhere near you). If you like Western trips, check out any reasonably local clubs you can find.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259875 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 5:46 pm to
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Can't you just rent some snowboards and boots and go hike up a hill? You'll figure it out.


You can. We ski into the summer off some of the trails and glaciers. But you need to know the terrain well.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27060 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:11 pm to
I enjoy skiing for a day. More than that and I get bored. Last time I was in Colorado I skied for a day and snowmobiled for a day. The snowmobiling was cheaper and those things haul arse. Plus we had a nice private picnic on a secluded mountain top.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120165 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:08 pm to
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That's been Vail's business model for the last several years -- they're buying up SOME small, cheaper, local hills and adding them to the season pass.


And its brilliant because those people at the shitty resort in michigan buy the season pass, ski a few days at the crap Michigan resort but then make the expensive trip to Vail once a year and enjoy $10 beers on the mountain.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11471 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:53 pm to
The thing killing skiing is there is just too much to do. College football tickets, beach trips, New York, vegas, saints tickets, golf, and on and on and on.

When I was growing up I knew people who went skiing every year. It was their trip. Now people try and do everything. It is the Facebook era and everyone wants pictures of themselves living the good life.

Skiing isn't convenient to much of the country and people are spending too much money on everything else.

Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31895 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:03 pm to
Literally went skiing last week, had a blast, spent under $1000 and skied for 4 days.

Free lodging FTW
This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 8:04 pm
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:51 pm to
So the skiing industry is pricing itself out of the market as traditional skiers age and ski less, whilst trying to attract a younger crowd that is too debt ridden to afford the high price of skiing? What a shame. I love skiing although I don't get to go as often as I'd like. sad they've priced it out of the reach of most people. Same for Vegas. I was there last December during the NFR and every criticism posted here is dead accurate.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
6985 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:52 pm to
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I completely agree with this. My preference is to visit the resort towns during the summer when lodging prices are cheaper. I like to ride the lift up the mountain and mountain bike down. Also spend time fly fishing, horseback riding, etc.


One of my regrets is that I never learned to ski. I know I would have enjoyed it. But you are spot on - summers in the mountains are fabulous. Lots to do.. hiking, mountain biking, jeeping and a local brewery in every town.
I saw a great tee shirt in Jackson Hole...

"I'd rather be in the mountains thinking about God than sitting in church, thinking about the mountains"

I'm going back just so I can buy the shirt !
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:17 pm to
Good, get these shitty redneck skiers out of my way when I'm trying to bomb some fresh powder.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
5975 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:22 pm to
Think I may buy a few of these properties when they close
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17668 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:23 pm to
Feb 2015
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29615 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:54 pm to
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It's cool, but it is also expensive as hell. Therein lies the rub.


This. Looking at a couple grand per day for a family of four.
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