2. nicely ask you to surrender
You're operating under the assumption that I was restricting this line of thought to people who are being arrested or served? I'm talking about ALL cop interactions with the public.
For you to ask someone to surrender would mean you had cause to arrest. After that all bets are off. I'm talking about BEFORE that. BEFORE that person has become a "criminal." When they're just a suspect that you're questioning. Before you have cause to arrest them. If you pull someone over for speeding and he immediately says, "What the frick do you want, pig?" Obviously, that's a dick thing to say. All I'm saying is that the cop can do his job without stooping to that dick'ish level.
Obviously if a cop is trying to arrest someone that isn't complying, I don't advocate just saying, "PRETTY PLEASSEEEE."
Again, learn the law. THey do not have to explain shite to you to enter your room.
I never said they did. Did I? Where did I say that? Dan, or someone else, I forget, said that all evidence pointed to the cops being in the right in this thread based on rule 4. Well rule 4 required a reason to believe violations were occurring.
Hang with me here, simpleton. SAYING THAT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THIS "REASON TO BELIEVE" within this thread, does not mean that it doesn't exist.
It means that there's no video, statement, article, etc that explains what gave the cops the right to exercise that search based on rule 4. None. Life is not black and white.
but the kid agreed that school officials could enter his room at any time with no other stipulations. Meaning they don't have to even have a reason, let alone give the kid one.
Room Entry Policy
Authorized university personnel may enter a student's residence hall room without permission for the following reasons:
1. To provide routine maintenance - Nope, not this.
2. To provide routine inspections to ensure that residents are following health, fire, and safety regulations - Nope[/b]
3. To respond to emergency situations; e.g., situations which threaten the health and/or safety of room occupants, and situations which require immediate maintenance to prevent property damage or immediate action to correct the health, fire and/or safety risk - Nope
4. When there is reason to believe that a violation of university policy is taking place in the room and occupants in the room do not open the door when requested to do so. - Probably based on speculation.
All 4 of those things represent the agreed upon policy by which the university can enter a residence. He didn't give them carte blance over his domicile.
This post was edited on 12/12 at 12:45 pm