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re: If we could pass a gas tax of 5 cents, with all proceeds going to police payroll

Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47577 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:09 pm to
How about, instead of adding another tax, we spend a lot less on the militarization of small town police forces at the local level and use those funds for recruitment and training of officers.

Maybe fedgov could chip in some more domestically if we did a lot less "nation building" over seas and focused on domestic defense.
Posted by Merck
Tuscaloosa
Member since Nov 2009
1693 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:33 pm to
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It is hard to get the best and the brightest when....


...when you turn down applicants because their IQ is too high.

I'm not a cop basher, but regardless of what you pay people it's hard to get competent people when you have a policy of turning down the best and brightest because you're afraid they'll be "too bored" as some police forces do.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:36 pm to
Like how the lottery and casinos are going to help with roads and education right?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71329 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:37 pm to
The government already siphons off enough of the gas tax that the roads are in an utter state of disrepair. So you want to add additional taxes to pay for something not even having to do with roads?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:40 pm to
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Gas being so cheap now, it seems the perfect time to tax,


Thing is that once gas goes back up, that tax will never go away.

Good luck getting any government to willingly repeal a tax and good luck getting police unions to not oppose the repeal.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71329 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:40 pm to
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The customer has already paid it and you were just holding on to it for a week. 


Texas is tax at the rack, so he actually pays the distributor or supplier the taxes, who paid the taxes when they removed it from the rack.

It's not really comparable to sales tax.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
84986 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:41 pm to
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typical conservative response.

And the typical liberal response...
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pass a

quote:

tax
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:47 pm to
The only way he made 80k was working on his off days. They can make good money, but have to work two jobs to do so.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:53 pm to
Wow the police are going to use these tragedies to try and get more money?

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the FACT that we know police are underpaid


Huh? Cops are making more than welders and many IT workers when you consider benefits, particularly the retirement benefits that are insane. State police recently got a 20% across the board raise.

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It is hard to get the best and the brightest


Wow. It seems evident that the police go out of their way NOT to hire the brightest people. All you'd be doing is giving these same government employees more money.

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perfect time to tax


Taxes and love of government. Oddly enough there are lots of "small government conservative" Republicans that would support this. 5 cent tax would be $150 million if we are talking statewide in Louisiana, or $7 billion nationwide.

Oh, and how do you feel about the state dedicating money for certain things and being unable to use it for anything else in times of budget crisis?
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 9:59 pm
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15525 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:53 pm to
Law enforcement retirement is pretty sweet though, especially with State.

But it doesn't matter how much cops are paid. When dealing with thugs on the daily, a lot of crap is bound to happen.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16869 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:56 pm to
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Problem is the politicians will put that in there pockets.



Or divert the money to education, which is sorely needed.
Posted by Murtown
OT Ballerville
Member since Sep 2014
1607 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:06 pm to
We don't have a problem with law enforcement, cops are gonna cop. We have a problem with dumbasses
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:42 pm to
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If we could pass a gas tax of 5 cents, with all proceeds going to police payroll

How are we going to pay for bridges and roads? Increase speeding fines? Parking fines?
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:44 pm to
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Cops are making more than welders and many IT workers when you consider benefits

I've never heard of a welder or programmer getting shot at on the job.......
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 12:05 am to
So basically the cop version of "thats racist!"
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9312 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 12:05 am to
Wrong. We spend billions more on education than ever before and our students aren't getting any more proficient. Throwing more money at the problem isn't making it better. It's one of those things that sound great to say - let's give teachers more. Let's invest in our kids.

This is how the Department of Education went from a $2.2B budget to a $77.5B budget in my lifetime.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 12:08 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259898 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 12:14 am to
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I ask because let's face it the reason why police have issues with recruitment and hiring is the low pay. They should start at at least $50k with brass making six figures.


Cops in many places start at more than 50k.

Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 12:15 am to
Would rather give it to teachers
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259898 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 12:16 am to
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Would rather give it to teachers


I'd rather not raise taxes. Teachers and cops in most large cities are paid enough
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Member since May 2011
14835 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 12:33 am to
why cut government waste when you can raise taxes, amirite?
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