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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:07 am
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:09 am to Lacour
Sunday Mornings with Lacour is back? Nice.
They would've lost and Pearl Harbor would not have happened.
They would've lost and Pearl Harbor would not have happened.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:12 am to Murray
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Pearl Harbor would not have happened.
How ya figure?
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:13 am to Lacour
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Elaborate Por favor
I think the South would've worked to strengthen their ties to Great Britain and Ireland immediately and aggressively work on patching up others(France).
We would've been involved sooner had the South won.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:16 am to Murray
We were already sending copious amounts of aide to the Allies by the time of Pearl Harbor. But how would "the south" have prevented Pearl Harbor? Are we envisioning that the confederates control all of the continental US or that we have a United States and Confederate States?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:20 am to lsu2006
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We were already sending copious amounts of aide to the Allies by the time of Pearl Harbor. But how would "the south" have prevented Pearl Harbor?
Alright. Look. I just came in here to post to Lacour and pop off a quick, uninformed answer. Figured history buffs would show up shortly. This is clearly getting out of hand quickly.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:21 am to lsu2006
Two different nations at the very least
Texas and California would probably be their own nations.
No telling what would have happened to the Rocky Mountain region
Texas and California would probably be their own nations.
No telling what would have happened to the Rocky Mountain region
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:23 am to Lacour
Harry Turtledove has explored this.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:24 am to Lacour
You came to right place.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:25 am to Lacour
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas.
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:27 am to Lacour
Only if it led to the Nazis developing the bomb first (unlikely) or caused Hilter not to invade Russia (unlikely).
So no.
So no.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:28 am to Lacour
During the First World War the Union ally with Germany and Mexico, while the Confederacy allies with the Entente. Germany wins first World War, and Union destroys Confederacy. Second World War occurs as fascism emerges in Britain and France. Germany and United States unite to ensure the rise of these countries does not occur.
United States conquers Canada.
Germany is also able to put down rise of Bolshevism in Russia during the 1920s.
United States conquers Canada.
Germany is also able to put down rise of Bolshevism in Russia during the 1920s.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:42 am to Lacour
It will be whatever the wet dream is of our resident southern rednecks
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:44 am to Murray
quote:American Civil War (1861-65)
I think the South would've worked to strengthen their ties to Great Britain and Ireland immediately and aggressively work on patching up others(France).
Republic of Ireland treaty of Independence from UK
-6 December 1921
OP: There wouldn't have been an Axis for WWII because there probably wouldn't have been the outcome of WWI that history saw.
There arguably might not have been a WWII.
Had the American Civil War ended with the South being independent, the course of history would have been altered. We'll never know how it would have been.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:57 am to soccerfüt
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Had the American Civil War ended with the South being independent, the course of history would have been altered. We'll never know how it would have been.
Forgive me but I thought WWI was the result of convoluted treaties and the rise of regional nationalism in Europe. America was isolated at the time. Why would the independent confederacy have an impact on whether WWI happens?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:06 am to Tigeralum2008
And let's be honest, an independent South would have needed more than 40 years to reconstruct themselves enough to become a world player. They had virtually no industry and their country was ravaged by war. Hardly a formula for a quick ascension into world politics
Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:17 am to Tigeralum2008
He didn't say there would not have been a WWI just an altered outcome. As it is generally argued the intervention of the United States made victory by the Allies assured.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:25 am to Murray
Didn't the Confederacy and the Nazi's have the same position on some very key elements? Specifically, the view on who and who didn't count as human.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:28 am to Lacour
If the South woulda won, we'd a had it made
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