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re: If fast food restaurants didn't exist, would you be any healthier?

Posted on 10/21/16 at 10:06 am to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33299 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 10:06 am to
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First link states fructose so I see why you posted it. Then it specifiys it is because of refined sugars and HFCS,


Not exactly. It gives the now common advice of "go ahead and eat fruit because you're unlikely to OD on fructose from that." First of all, I mentioned that I personally do eat berries. Secondly, I find that advice unconvincing as I used to absolutely gorge myself on fruit. Seriously, I'd have mounds of grapes, several peaches and 3 or 4 kiwis...every day. That was absolutely not good for me.

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And spiking insulin can be beneficial to muscle growth when done properly.


That's irrelevant to the overall negative effects of spiking insulin on leading the body to insulin resistance. You are focused on such things as muscle growth, whereas I'm focused on cancer and alzehimers.

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From the American Heart Association published less than 10 days ago


Yes, I know. It's sad how politicized and anti-scientific that organization has become - especially with all the new revelations in how corrupted and dishonest the studies were which led to these prescriptions starting almost 50 years ago.

I mean, this is almost laughably sad:
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In addition, many baked goods and fried foods can contain high levels of saturated fats. Some plant-based oils, such as palm oil, palm kernel oil and coconut oil, also contain primarily saturated fats, but do not contain cholesterol.


Dietary cholesterol is all but irrelevant to blood cholesterol. Any site that is attempting to obscure that from you is not your friend.

ETA: Even the picture of the burgers is misleading. The bread is what's bad for you.
This post was edited on 10/21/16 at 10:13 am
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 10:38 am to
Nope. Fast food doesn't get me. Carbs and not exercising do.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31431 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 10:48 am to
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My BP, weight, muscle mass, cardio vascular exercise (mile times) all speak for themselves. I put my results up against any other diet.


that's great. the average American simply won't do the things you do. The average American can VERY easily follow something akin to keto indefinitely and succeed, without exercise, calorie counting and other finely tuned diet programs.

There are long-term studies in the works now that hopefully will reveal the relative benefits of high-good-fat/low-carb v. carby diets of various ilk.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31431 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 10:50 am to
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Dietary cholesterol is all but irrelevant to blood cholesterol. Any site that is attempting to obscure that from you is not your friend.


it's crazy how many people totally miss this or intentionally ignore it.
Posted by thibtigerfan
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2006
2460 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 1:57 pm to
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Yes, I know. It's sad how politicized and anti-scientific that organization has become - especially with all the new revelations in how corrupted and dishonest the studies were which led to these prescriptions starting almost 50 years ago.

Every industry has their own agenda. Same can be said about articles you link.

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Secondly, I find that advice unconvincing as I used to absolutely gorge myself on fruit. Seriously, I'd have mounds of grapes, several peaches and 3 or 4 kiwis...every day. That was absolutely not good for me.


Not many people simply survive off of just fruits.
It would take an extreme amount to get to the unhealthy part is where I am at, far more than one can eat everyday. HFCS and refined sugars are a whole different story.


Fruit is not what is killing Americans
Posted by thibtigerfan
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2006
2460 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 1:59 pm to
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that's great. the average American simply won't do the things you do. The average American can VERY easily follow something akin to keto indefinitely and succeed, without exercise, calorie counting and other finely tuned diet programs.


I stated that earlier. It was just an alternative to all the keto answers typically given

I know healthy and unhealthy people who do keto
and I know healthy and unhealthy people who do IIFYM with a good amount of carbs roped in. The source of such is a big factor


I don't think either is "right" or "wrong", it is about what works best for the person to be able to maintain the healthy lifestyle
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