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I12 commuters, wasn't the S curve in the construction
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:35 pm
zone the cause of multiple accidents when they were widening I12 btwn Millerville and DS?
Asking because they've created two or three similar little curves on I10 between Breaux Bridge and Laffy in preparation of adding a third lane. Just trying to guess the over/under on the amount of accidents this will cause and how bad the morning commute will be.
Asking because they've created two or three similar little curves on I10 between Breaux Bridge and Laffy in preparation of adding a third lane. Just trying to guess the over/under on the amount of accidents this will cause and how bad the morning commute will be.
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:37 pm to tigerinthebueche
yep...18 wheelers struggle on those s curves
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:37 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:Yes. Trucks were taking the curves too fast and overturning. Happened several times a week it seemed like.
I12 commuters, wasn't the S curve in the construction
zone the cause of multiple accidents when they were widening I12 btwn Millerville and DS?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:37 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:no, the cause is the shitty fricking drivers on the roads.
wasn't the S curve in the construction
zone the cause of multiple accidents
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:39 pm to tigerinthebueche
There were many factors that combined for the multiple accidents. The curves are designed for a specific vehicle speed. When those speeds are exceeded, especially with taller vehicles, accident rates will increase.
The curves were not the cause. The inability of drivers to maneuver thru them safely was.
The curves were not the cause. The inability of drivers to maneuver thru them safely was.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:42 pm to Boudreaux35
(There were many factors that combined for the multiple accidents. The curves are designed for a specific vehicle speed. When those speeds are exceeded, especially with taller vehicles, accident rates will increase.
The curves were not the cause. The inability of drivers to maneuver thru them safely was.)
this times 1000. the detours are designed by an engineer. I did a project on US 90 and during the week the detour was fine. It never failed, I bet every impact to the barriers was from some drunk on a Friday and or Saturday night.
The curves were not the cause. The inability of drivers to maneuver thru them safely was.)
this times 1000. the detours are designed by an engineer. I did a project on US 90 and during the week the detour was fine. It never failed, I bet every impact to the barriers was from some drunk on a Friday and or Saturday night.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:50 pm to CarRamrod
I'll show you my S-Curve babe
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:50 pm to tigerinthebueche
OP, I thought the exact same thing when I passed those new curves yesterday. At least the Baton Rouge curves didn't look like they were put down by a tipsy amateur with a roll of duct tape, sheesh.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:50 pm to CarRamrod
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no, the cause is the shitty fricking drivers on the roads
oh no doubt. I've been watching them on I10 the last 3 mornings without benefit of the concrete barriers and the drivers are still struggling. Can't wait till it gets narrowed down with no where to go. Should be a real demolition derby.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:56 pm to Boudreaux35
Isn't the role of a competent traffic engineer to anticipate traffic problems? 
Why does it need to be a sharp S-curve? Why not a gradual merge? Oh yeah, that's because our "traffic engineers" aren't actually traffic engineers, and have no training in it
Why does it need to be a sharp S-curve? Why not a gradual merge? Oh yeah, that's because our "traffic engineers" aren't actually traffic engineers, and have no training in it
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:57 pm to Hammertime
They are not NTTA quality baws.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 1:04 pm to Hammertime
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Why does it need to be a sharp S-curve? Why not a gradual merge? Oh yeah, that's because our "traffic engineers" aren't actually traffic engineers, and have no training in it
Posted on 5/17/17 at 1:12 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Just trying to guess the over/under on the amount of accidents this will cause and how bad the morning commute will be.
Depends on whether or not your drivers are as shite as the ones in the LP. The truckers who drive tens of thousands of miles a year through all kinds of terrain aren't getting flustered by an s-curve.
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 5/17/17 at 1:34 pm to tigerinthebueche
Imo, the problem with the I-12 S curves were that you had a curve with the road sloped the opposite of what you'd typical have in a curve. Imagine driving on a NASCAR track but the track is sloped from left to right instead of right to left in the curves. You also had to cross over the crown of the road, shifting the load. Trucks would haul arse through there and couldn't manage it.
Disclaimer: not an engineer but occasionally have sex with one
Disclaimer: not an engineer but occasionally have sex with one
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:17 pm to Hammertime
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Isn't the role of a competent traffic engineer to anticipate traffic problems?
Pretty damn hard to anticipate stupidity. Just like here. The safest way is a complete detour. Send your dumb arse driving down US90/I-49 thru Morgan City and N.O. to get to BR. That obviously won't work, so you lower the speed limit and divert traffic over using a lane shift or a crossover. The challenge is to decide how slow you need to get traffic and keep the diversion safe while still maintaining some decent flow of traffic. Nobody wants to slow down to 10mph while on the interstate and you obviously can't design a diversion or shift for 75mph that is safe in this kind of situation.
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Oh yeah, that's because our "traffic engineers" aren't actually traffic engineers, and have no training in it
Please provide proof of this information.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:20 pm to tigerinthebueche
Typical for people to bitch about the existing roads and bitch more when steps are taken to improve them.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:03 pm to tigerinthebueche
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I10 between Breaux Bridge and Laffy in preparation of adding a third lane.
Complete wast of money. I-10 East to Prairieville desperately needs this but we pissing money away on a stretch to Lafayette which will make ZERO difference.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:11 pm to WillieD
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Typical for people to bitch about the existing roads and bitch more when steps are taken to improve them.
I haven't bitched about anything. I simply asked about a known problem area in an old construction zone for the sake of comparison to a new one.
Sorry you think every inquiry is some sort of complaint. Your life must really suck.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:13 pm to TigerGman
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Complete wast of money. I-10 East to Prairieville desperately needs this but we pissing money away on a stretch to Lafayette which will make ZERO difference.
not sure if serious, but this stretch between Laffy and the Spillway needs an upgrade. Not saying its more deserving than I10-Pville. But it certainly doesn't rate a 0.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:19 pm to TigerGman
quote:everything you posted is incorrect. proposals for I-10 east from highland to 73 have been submitted. it's been in the works for awhile. the portion in breaux bridge is from a different pool of use-it-or-lose-it money and not a waste at all.
Complete wast of money. I-10 East to Prairieville desperately needs this but we pissing money away on a stretch to Lafayette which will make ZERO difference.
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