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I don't trust string theory and neither should you

Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:26 pm
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:26 pm
Now, let me preface my further comments by admitting that the mathematics involved are well beyond my education, and perhaps even outside my aptitude, and that the relevant human principals are by empirical observation entirely worthy of the type of respect we so unduly grant to, say, obviously stupid brain surgeons.

But when asked to consider the workings of this and other possible universes, should we not insist on total empiricism over the multiple dimensions they propose? Now, I'm not suggesting that we must sensorily experience every natural phenomenon in order to concede its existence; for example, it's easy to accept the actuality of electromagnetic waves above and below the visual light spectrum because we know from experience that our senses are physically limited.

But are those eleven string theory dimensions the same sort of proposition as waves and particles we can't see or we've yet to detect? I don't think so. The problem is that, despite claims to the contrary by those physicists and mathematicians, we CAN'T EVEN COMPREHEND THEM.

The spatial dimensions (i.e. height, width, depth, time) are easy enough to grasp and experience, and position with the universe might also be considered and comprehended as a fifth. But it seems to me that anything beyond those are merely abstract mathematical constructions, invented for the sake of a descriptive formula. They no more exist, by my understanding and skepticism, than two. Yes, the NUMBER two exists, and two of many things definitely exist, but two, itself, does not. It is mere abstract description.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:27 pm to
Neither does Dr Cooper
Posted by Rush2112
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:29 pm to
We get it. You think you're smart.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:29 pm to
i could only comprehend like 11 words in that post.
This post was edited on 12/16/15 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:30 pm to
I pressed the enter key prematurely.
Posted by Grim
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:32 pm to
Who cares whether you trust it or not?
Posted by Itismemc
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:33 pm to
But how will you hold your furry costumes together?
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:35 pm to
i actually agree with you.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:37 pm to
Can someone give me a summary?
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:38 pm to
The only string theory you could comprehend is the one you pulled out of Maggie's butt after she ate a ball of yarn.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Can someone give me a summary?
I prefer summary nights to wintery days
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

time


You think time is an easy dimension to grasp?

Do this as an exercise...

Define time without using words relating to time. Write a definition that isn't circular.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:39 pm to
Rex is hinting that he believes there is a God.




***I know it was you Rex that downvoted me***
This post was edited on 12/16/15 at 3:55 pm
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:41 pm to
time - an existence of events that can be measured
This post was edited on 12/16/15 at 3:41 pm
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:41 pm to
Oh you want to type a post in MS Word and thesaurus it and edit it over the course of weeks to make yourself sound intelligent?

How about you just show us the math behind this, genius?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:41 pm to
When you look at it and think real hard then wala, you have it
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:45 pm to
Now, I'm certain there's value in their work. The mathematical model, once finalized, will have certain predictive value that might prove pragmatic. But so do Newton's formulas concerning gravitational attraction, even when no modern physicist accepts his underlying bases.

The eleven dimensions might be critical to a mathematical model that works, but that doesn't mean they describe a reality.
This post was edited on 12/16/15 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Aux Arc
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

Define time without using words relating to time. Write a definition that isn't circular.


A measure of the passage of present moments often measured in relation to the sun's changing position relative to the earth.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 3:47 pm to
Which particular words I used do you think required a thesaurus?
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