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re: Hyundai's Genesis will now be an all new luxury brand. First model: The G90
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:35 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:35 pm to LNCHBOX
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Hyundai may get there eventually, but let's pump the brakes with this hyperbole.
It is perfectly reasonable to be uneducated on the quality of these vehicles and their position in their class, so I'll give you and others a pass, but they're a fine vehicle. It will take time before they have the panache of a BMW or Mercedes, but the quality and styling of the vehicle has been there for a few years now, particularly on the Genesis.
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:35 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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no but a 3 year old was unable to comprehend it.
click on the details link retard
If that's what he puts up as the main points for comparing the luxury, that's on him. Surely there was something more compelling than sunroof, leather, and power seats to put in the summary.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:36 pm to slackster
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It is perfectly reasonable to be uneducated on the quality of these vehicles and their position in their class
How good do your farts smell?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:36 pm to LNCHBOX
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If that's what he puts up as the main points for comparing the luxury, that's on him. Surely there was something more compelling than sunroof, leather, and power seats to put in the summary.
maybe they have a limit for amount of info on each page. i didn't design it.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:37 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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maybe they have a limit for amount of info on each page
Ok, my point is that he picks leather, sunroof and power seats to list. That's asinine.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:39 pm to LNCHBOX
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Or perhaps they feel Hyundai has more to prove before they get compared to the established players in a segment. Just because Toyota pulled it off with Lexus does not mean that this move by Hyundai will be successful in the long run.
Or perhaps they don't think itll get the head turns a Benz or BMW will.
Hyundai is trying to rebrand this line of cars to capture this portion of the market, which was my point from the get go.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:39 pm to GRTiger
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What a treat to have all three of you in one thread talking to each other
I laughed.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:40 pm to UpToPar
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Or perhaps they don't think itll get the head turns a Benz or BMW will.
Maybe you're the idiot for thinking that's the only reason someone wouldn't buy a Hyundai.
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Hyundai is trying to rebrand this line of cars to capture this portion of the market, which was my point from the get go.
And that takes time.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:43 pm to LNCHBOX
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Maybe you're the idiot for thinking that's the only reason someone wouldn't buy a Hyundai.
Won't buy and won't consider are two different things. I don't fault anyone for not buying a car. I think people who automatically write off certain cars based on brand alone are idiots.
And Hyundai has come a long way in the past 10 years both in terms of quality and reliability.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:44 pm to LNCHBOX
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Maybe you're the idiot for thinking that's the only reason someone wouldn't buy a Hyundai.
Sigh.
By and large, for the last few years, there is no tangible reason someone would purchase most competitors in the same class as a Genesis. I won't lose sleep over someone who can't pull the trigger "just because", and car buying doesn't have to be logical all the time, but if it was, the Genesis would be the leader in the segment.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:46 pm to UpToPar
quote:This is too hard of a concept for lnch.
Won't buy and won't consider are two different things. I don't fault anyone for not buying a car. I think people who automatically write off certain cars based on brand alone are idiots.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:49 pm to slackster
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there is no tangible reason someone would purchase most competitors in the same class as a Genesis
Resale value for starters. Lack of tangible data on longevity is another. Driving dynamics is yet another.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:57 pm to LNCHBOX
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LNCHB
What vehicles do you own?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:58 pm to CHEDBALLZ
Not a Genesis, or anything it competes with.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:58 pm to RedRifle
Beautiful. I would drive one
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:07 pm to LNCHBOX
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Resale value for starters.
2015 Hyundai Genesis AWD vs 2015 BMW 328i AWD. According to Edmunds, Genesis experiences $250 more depreciation over 5 years despite $1000 difference in MSRP, saving you $750 in resale value.
LINK
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Lack of tangible data on longevity is another
Why is there no tangible data on longevity? These cars get overhauls and remakes all the time. Hyundai's reputation isn't as long as the others, but that reputation doesn't stop things like the BMW 7 series from being a disaster.
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Driving dynamics is yet another.
You'll have to give them both a chance to judge that.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:13 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:It's not. Not at all.
actually it is
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:15 pm to slackster
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2015 Hyundai Genesis AWD vs 2015 BMW 328i AWD. According to Edmunds, Genesis experiences $250 more depreciation over 5 years despite $1000 difference in MSRP, saving you $750 in resale value.
LINK
I can link you same numbers too.
quote:LINK And why are you comparing the Genesis to a 3 series?
If you are a used car buyer, these are best to look at buying secondhand because they all take steep depreciation losses in the first year of ownership: Hyundai Genesis - after a year, it loses just under 40% of its value. So, for example, a $50,000 Genesis new would sell for roughly $30,000 when it's 1 year old!
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Why is there no tangible data on longevity?
Because they haven't been around all that long.
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Hyundai's GOOD reputation isn't as long as the others
FIFY. Hyundai has a pretty long rep though.
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Hyundai's reputation isn't as long as the others, but that reputation doesn't stop things like the BMW 7 series from being a disaster.
No one has said the 7 series is reliable. Why do you keep changing models to compare the Genesis to though?
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You'll have to give them both a chance to judge that.
Road tests have said as much. It's all over the web.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 5:00 pm to RedRifle
No Thanks.
My parents had a Genesis. It was a piece of shite. Nice looking and good warranty, but there were so many serious problems with that car that they were afraid to take it anywhere. It had a knack for breaking down on busy highways.
I don't think it lasted 45,000 miles.
My parents had a Genesis. It was a piece of shite. Nice looking and good warranty, but there were so many serious problems with that car that they were afraid to take it anywhere. It had a knack for breaking down on busy highways.
I don't think it lasted 45,000 miles.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 5:01 pm to dewster
I hear the same thing about BMW's and Porsches
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