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Hypothetical: If you were a General in WWI, how Would you have Fought?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:27 pm
Let's say you had the same firepower, equipment, and logistical capabilities that the combatants in that shitty...shitty War had, is there any way to fight it differently?
I ask because I'm reading Now It Can Be Told by Philip Gibbs right now, who was a war correspondent for GB during the war.
I ask because I'm reading Now It Can Be Told by Philip Gibbs right now, who was a war correspondent for GB during the war.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:28 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I'd have gassed major population centers with terrorist attacks.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:32 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I would have a lot more shotguns distributed among my soldiers. I would also train more sharpshooters to provide covering fire when my soldiers went over the top.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:36 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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If you were a General in WWI, how Would you have Fought?
I would've invented robots
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:37 pm to X123F45
Simultaneous 4 a.m. bombing runs on the homes and offices of the leaders and their upper echelon. If about 400 people that started, and pushed the war had died one night, the war could have ended immediately.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:40 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
The Germans eventually figured out how to do it effectively using stosstruppen to bypass strong points and penetrate behind the enemy trench line, but by the time they did, it was too late. They broke the stalemate with their 1918 offensive, but they didn't have enough manpower left by that point to force the issue. They shot their bolt and were crushed by the Allied counteroffensive.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:40 pm to Hangit
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If about 400 people that started, and pushed the war had died one night, the war could have ended immediately.
It really is pretty crazy how chaotic things were politically right before the first shots were fired. Especially with the cousins, Kaiser Wilhelm and the Czar of Russia, Nikolai, going back and forth in the days and hours leading up to the war saying that they were going to try and figure things out.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:41 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
How high of a level of a general are we talking?
Like a division commander or a chief of a Allied staff?
You're kind of limited as to what you could have done as a division commander. Try your best with combined arms and use fire and maneuver and see where that gets you.
As a very senior commander or chief of staff, I'd have employed a lot more psychological operations and done a lot more to foment unrest in the German ranks. I'd also have tried to deliberately starve them out much earlier and much more harshly.
Like a division commander or a chief of a Allied staff?
You're kind of limited as to what you could have done as a division commander. Try your best with combined arms and use fire and maneuver and see where that gets you.
As a very senior commander or chief of staff, I'd have employed a lot more psychological operations and done a lot more to foment unrest in the German ranks. I'd also have tried to deliberately starve them out much earlier and much more harshly.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:42 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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they didn't have enough manpower left by that point to force the issue. They shot their bolt and were crushed by the Allied counteroffensive.
Well that and their people were quite literally starving and they were in fear of going by the way of Russia in 1917.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:45 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
With a capital F.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:45 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Drop two nukes December 8th, 1941
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:47 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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How high of a level of a general are we talking?
I'm talking about the equivalent of Douglas Haig, Joseph Joffre, and Ludendorff and von Moltke
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:51 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I would have ditched the 19th century tactics early in the war to help prevent the stalemate of trench warfare
I also would have concentrated more resources in the Balkans. The Austrians were incompetent.
I also would have concentrated more resources in the Balkans. The Austrians were incompetent.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:54 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
WWI to me seems to me to be the more dehumanizing, brutal war out of the two World Wars. As a soldier you quite literally were thrown into the meat grinder. Horrible stuff, hope it never happens again.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:55 pm to upgrayedd
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I would have ditched the 19th century tactics early in the war to help prevent the stalemate of trench warfare
Well that would've been difficult because you didn't have the same vehicles, tanks, air power, etc. that they did in all wars after.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:59 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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How high of a level of a general are we talking?
I'm talking about the equivalent of Douglas Haig, Joseph Joffre, and Ludendorff and von Moltke
In that case, three things:
1) As mentioned above, I would have cranked the political warfare and psychological ops up to 11
2) I would have been a lot more aggressive with my Navy than the British were from 1916 to 1918
3) Churchill had the right fundamental idea with Gallipoli. A second front that was not easily trenched and defended would have radically changed strategic alternatives. They just picked a poor spot and had tremendously shitty execution.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 5:00 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Well that would've been difficult because you didn't have the same vehicles, tanks, air power, etc. that they did in all wars previous.
Not really. Changing the way you engage the enemy doesn't always depend on having/not having those things.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 5:08 pm to Whoopdedo_LSU
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Drop two nukes December 8th, 1941
This is impressively stupid.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 5:12 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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The Germans eventually figured out how to do it effectively using stosstruppen to bypass strong points and penetrate behind the enemy trench line, but by the time they did, it was too late. They broke the stalemate with their 1918 offensive, but they didn't have enough manpower left by that point to force the issue. They shot their bolt and were crushed by the Allied counteroffensive.
This hits the nail on the head.
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