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re: Hurricane Nate - Moving Inland - Hurricane Season Over?

Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:06 am to
Posted by SECretariat
Member since Jun 2015
339 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:06 am to
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This looks like the most raggedy assed, discombobulated storm ever. moving this fast I see no way it really gets its act together.


Sadly, it doesn't take long to get organized... it looks better formed in every new frame:
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
4763 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:09 am to
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At this point there is almost no way for this to be more than a cat 1

Jumping from a disorganized TS into major hurricane in less than 36 hours just isnt happening


that's not accurate at all. THIS STORM might not do that, but it's certainly possible. Wilma went from like Cat 1 to Cat 5 in 6 hours or something crazy like that.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164014 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:09 am to
Models shifting back towards the east. Looks like I bought gas and water for nothing.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126942 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:09 am to
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I believe "CAG" stands for "Central American Gyre"... which I think is a fancy way of saying monsoon rains over Honduras & Nicaragua

Thanks. I even googled "CAG hurricane" and got nothing.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:10 am to
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Sadly, it doesn't take long to get organized... it looks better formed in every new frame:


It does, and the current consensus seems to be little to no interaction with the Yucatan Peninsula, which would help things along the central Gulf coast.

It's still having hell in the NE quadrant, and until that gets more organized, it will be hindered.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27347 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:10 am to
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Gut feelings abound.


I watch the neighbor's cows in the field morning of.

They start acting weird, something bad is up.

Might seem silly. But those strong southern winds last Friday night in BR prompted me to buy a few extra 40 packs of water.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:11 am to
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Models shifting back towards the east. Looks like I bought gas and water for nothing.


Pour it out then. At least you were prepared.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35606 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:12 am to
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This is worded a bit weird, but yes, a quicker storm gives it less time to get its act together. It doesn't really prevent strengthening on its own,


In this case, it might be moving fast enough to act as a limit on strengthening. Once Nate is really flying over the gulf, the east side will be pulling up a lot of heat with those strong steering currents helping out of the S and SE. The west side will have those steering winds working against it, and limiting the heat the west side can pick up. Making Nate spend energy to just get and stay somewhat symmetrical instead of having all quadrants supplying good heat flux.

I might be overselling just how much the wind differential on sides matters, but it makes sense to me it would have an impact in this case with a small circulation trying to organize for the first time.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141034 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:12 am to
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Thanks. I even googled "CAG hurricane" and got nothing.

that's my 1 tiny complaint with these threads sometimes... they use all this meteorology shorthands that most of us common folk don't understand

have to look at like 5 different sources to put it all together and make sense
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:13 am to
I hate when people make statements like he made. It’s like they are so nervous they make outlandish remarks when things look slightly better. Things by no means look good for Louisiana, just better.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19803 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:15 am to
quote:


I believe "CAG" stands for "Central American Gyre"... which I think is a fancy way of saying monsoon rains over Honduras & Nicaragua

Could be wrong though


Correct. I tried to avoid using that in this thread and for most of the thread I just referred to a broad area of lower pressure. The NHC started using gyre in the discussions and some other posters have posted it here and there. So I figured I could save some key strokes and use the preferred CAG.
Posted by SECretariat
Member since Jun 2015
339 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:15 am to
You can see the region starting to spin up...
Posted by Muriel
third ward
Member since Dec 2016
444 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:17 am to
if it misses the yucatan, we may get a hurricane earlier than predicted. The two gifs on this page show more spinning/tightening than we'd seen.
Posted by CapperVin
Member since Apr 2013
10531 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:17 am to
Thank goodness!! Wishcasters dreams are about to be ruined!! Hopefully it will be nothing more than a thunderstorm for our area
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:18 am to
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All images are free to share publicly on social media, and on personal websites or blogs with moderation, with the stipulation that proper citation be given. Special requests may be directed to levicowan@tropicaltidbits.com.





I wonder if young Levi would consider the use of his images in these threads as "moderate?"

I think we steer more people to his site though, and he's a beast.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 11:19 am
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8311 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:19 am to
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I think we steer more people to his site though, and he's a beast.

Definitely
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141034 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Correct. I tried to avoid using that in this thread and for most of the thread I just referred to a broad area of lower pressure. The NHC started using gyre in the discussions and some other posters have posted it here and there. So I figured I could save some key strokes and use the preferred CAG.

I understand what you're saying completely... and I'm not against shorthand at all

just sometimes... you gotta do what we in the media call "re-establishing shots"... remind us what it is and why it's important... then go back to the shorthand for a while
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164014 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:20 am to
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Things by no means look good for Louisiana, just better.


They look good for Baton Rouge which is all that really matters.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120165 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:24 am to
Boat gets it
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166127 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:25 am to
Covington is nearly out the cone. i may not even tie up my travel trailer cover.
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