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Hunting Hitler Question
Posted on 12/21/16 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 12/21/16 at 8:43 pm
The history channel show (I know there is a board for shows but this is somewhat of a broader question) called Hunting Hitler is fascinating.
That said, for you history majors and buffs, does this show fact-check out? Are the documents they used real, declassified docs? The show has some legit guys like Baer and Kennedy.
Just curious?
That said, for you history majors and buffs, does this show fact-check out? Are the documents they used real, declassified docs? The show has some legit guys like Baer and Kennedy.
Just curious?
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 8:48 pm to DeltaDoc
It does in some ways but they make grand assumptions based of a gain of one fact. Hitler died in Germany is accepted native because the preponderance of evidence supports that conclusion. Notice how they always pose the conclusion in this show and the oak island as a question or this could have happened. That is poor history.
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 12/21/16 at 8:49 pm to DeltaDoc
I've been watching that show too. The show last night, about the experimental bomb test was disturbing to think about.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 8:53 pm to DeltaDoc
Austrians
Posted on 12/21/16 at 8:53 pm to DeltaDoc
It's a wild goose chase that does nothing but display previously obscure end and post war history.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:00 pm to DeltaDoc
I find it that Baer is doing this. There'll inevitably some terrorist attack and they'll have him on CNN as a former CIA expert(hell, I think I saw him this week after the Germany thing) and I just can't take him seriously anymore. Dude, 15 minutes ago you were running around an Argentine jungle looking for a dude who undoubtedly killed himself in Berlin 70 years ago. Sandwiched in between the Ancient Alien dudes and some hillbilly hunting for Bigfoot.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:07 pm to FreddieMac
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Hitler died in Germany is accepted native because the preponderance of evidence supports that conclusion.
The only time I've read about people questioning this is become the official story comes from the Russians and some people don't believe it just because its from them. As I understand it, the Russians raided Hitler's bunker and found the bodies then buried him in an unmarked grave out in the woods nearby. The Americans were not involved. I can see the possibility that the Russians captured him alive and kept him locked up in some secret prison for the rest of his life, or maybe the Russians killed him in a last stand shoot out. In any case, he was not walking around as a free man. I think its very unlikely he got out of there alive.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:09 pm to Hot Carl
Hitler obviously lived in Glacier National Park
Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:15 pm to Brosef Stalin
The Russians allegedly have Hitler's skull in their possession.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:23 pm to Brosef Stalin
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As I understand it, the Russians raided Hitler's bunker and found the bodies then buried him in an unmarked grave out in the woods nearby. The Americans were not involved. I can see the possibility that the Russians captured him alive and kept him locked up in some secret prison for the rest of his life, or maybe the Russians killed him in a last stand shoot out. In any case, he was not walking around as a free man. I think its very unlikely he got out of there alive.
Absolutely incorrect. Hitler's body was taken out into the Reichchancellery garden and burned along with Eva Braun's under explicit direction from Hitler prior to his suicide. The same was done for Goebbels, but much less effort was expended in the attempt to destroy his body and it was done in haste, which is why his charred remains were able to be recovered.
Hitler shot himself in the bunker and was burned in the garden of the Reichchancellery and then buried. There is plenty of evidence that all but confirms this unless you believe that those present in the bunker all lied about this until their deaths.
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:31 pm to DeltaDoc
Thru forensic evidence it has been proven Hitler died in the bunker.
This show is intellectual dishonest.
They do have portions of it. His dental records match the teeth and jaw portions the Russians have, The US captured his dentist and interrogated him. His testimony matches the Russian forensic materials.
This show is intellectual dishonest.
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The Russians allegedly have Hitler's skull in their possession.
They do have portions of it. His dental records match the teeth and jaw portions the Russians have, The US captured his dentist and interrogated him. His testimony matches the Russian forensic materials.
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:34 pm to DeltaDoc
The reason the show seems to stumble across possibilities that hitler fled is because many Germans fled the country via these same routes and destinations.
I'm sure there were plans to get hitler out of the country, but he was sick and his world was collapsing around him. Many Germans fled, but hitler wasn't one of them.
I'm sure there were plans to get hitler out of the country, but he was sick and his world was collapsing around him. Many Germans fled, but hitler wasn't one of them.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:37 pm to Oyster
It feels like it's fake, but I've not seen any mainstream reporting of such. The documents they show are certainly interesting and could make you believe their theories.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:47 pm to DeltaDoc
Hitler was a highly decorated soldier who loved Germany. I have no doubt he died in Germany with his people in the end. Obviously by suicide.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:02 pm to DeltaDoc
His ideas were on the right path. He was attacked for his economic wonderworks, and not for the "other" stuff.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:03 pm to Old Money
Hitler's Last Will and Political Testament. In reading this, it is politically impossible for Hitler to have done anything BUT kill himself. He wrote it the day before his suicide. The Russians were essentially hundreds of yards from the bunker by this time and artillery was falling in and around the Chancellery. He didn't escape, he shot himself. The History Channel is a station of clownish buffoonery now that is a money making enterprise, not a true historical or professional endeavor.
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Knowing what we know about Hitler, and given this final testament to the German leadership and people, does this sound like a man who was bullshitting so that he could attempt an escape to South America while the Soviets were hundreds of yards away?
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I myself and my wife - in order to escape the disgrace of deposition or capitulation - choose death. It is our wish to be burnt immediately on the spot where I have carried out the greatest part of my daily work in the course of a twelve years' service to my people.
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After six years of struggle, which in spite of all reverses will go down in history as the most glorious and most courageous manifestation of a people's will to live. I cannot separate myself from the city which is the capital of this Reich. Because our forces are too few to permit any further resistance against the enemy's assaults, and because individual resistance is rendered valueless by blinded and characterless scoundrels, I desire to share the fate that millions of others have taken upon themselves, in that I shall remain in this city. Furthermore, I do not want to fall into the hands of enemies who for the delectation of the hate-riddled masses require a new spectacle promoted by the Jews.
I have therefore resolved to remain in Berlin and there to choose death of my own will at the very moment when, as I believe, the seat of the Fuehrer and Chancellor can no longer be defended. I die with a joyful heart in the awareness the immeasurable deeds and achievements of our soldiers at the front, of our women at home, the achievements of our peasants and workers, and the contribution, unique in history, of our youth, which bears my name.
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Many very brave men and women have resolved to link their lives to mine to the very end. I have requested them, and finally ordered them, not to do so, but instead to take part in the continuing struggle of the nation. I ask the commanders of the army, navy, and air force to strengthen by all possible means the spirit of resistance of our soldiers in the spirit of National Socialism, emphasizing especially that I too, as founder and creator of this movement, have preferred death to cowardly flight or even capitulation.
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May it be one day a part of the code of honor; as it is already in the navy, that the surrender of an area or of a town is impossible, and above all in this respect the leaders should give a shining example of faithful devotion to duty unto death. Before my death
Knowing what we know about Hitler, and given this final testament to the German leadership and people, does this sound like a man who was bullshitting so that he could attempt an escape to South America while the Soviets were hundreds of yards away?
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:04 pm to Old Money
He is the only politician that truly loved his people! 
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:07 pm to tennvol
quote:Crawl back under your rock or bridge.
His ideas were on the right path. He was attacked for his economic wonderworks, and not for the "other" stuff.
GFY while you're at it.
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:07 pm to Oyster
Hitler had complex and extremely unique dental work. His mouth was a fricking disaster. His jaw, in Russian possession, matches his dental records/the memory of his dentist. Plus the story is dittoed by numerous people who were in the bunker, who never recanted. The official story matches common sense, what we know of Hitler's psychology, testimony of witnesses, and physical evidence.
That show is a worse wild goose chase than Oak Island. That's really saying something.
That show is a worse wild goose chase than Oak Island. That's really saying something.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:11 pm to soccerfüt
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Crawl back under your rock or bridge.
GFY while you're at it.
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Your kind, will be dealt with!
soooon!
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