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re: How to stop inner city violence
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:41 pm to baldona
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:41 pm to baldona
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Again, almost no one is having more kids for a bigger check. It doesn't work that way
I know a 50 year old piece of trash woman who did a terrible job of raising her own children, she just voluntarily took custody of her nieces 6 year old son. Keep in mind, this lady makes about $1200/mo and bounces from place to place every couple of months. First thing on her mind was how soon could she claim the child on her taxes. She has no business raising children.
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Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:41 pm to Farkwad
Bussing is one of the biggest failures in the history of this country. It's hard for me to think of another single program that did as much damage to education and neighborhoods. The fact that this travesty of a system is still being supported by out-dated court-rulings is a complete fricking joke.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:42 pm to baldona
Again, a decent portion of society is pure animals. Our trailer parks of white people are no better than the urban ghettos of blacks. They don't want any more than to just survive. They don't want to follow the ways of society.
When we provide them with flexibility and options, they aren't going to follow any rules until we punish them or they hit a wall.
The only way to make changes to that group of people, is by force. Its either giving them less options, or physically making them. Wanting to do anything different, is purely idealistic dreaming.
When we provide them with flexibility and options, they aren't going to follow any rules until we punish them or they hit a wall.
The only way to make changes to that group of people, is by force. Its either giving them less options, or physically making them. Wanting to do anything different, is purely idealistic dreaming.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:43 pm to Tyga Woods
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I know a 50 year old piece of trash woman who did a terrible job of raising her own children, she just voluntarily took custody of her nieces 6 year old son. Keep in mind, this lady makes about $1200/mo and bounces from place to place every couple of months. First thing on her mind was how soon could she claim the child on her taxes. She has no business raising children.
I'll concede adopting is a different story, I'm talking about our poor people actually birthing kids.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:44 pm to SabiDojo
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Have a newfound respect for life by having fewer abortions (biggest problem in the black community today, imo).
I can say with 100% certainty that too many abortions is not the biggest problem in the black community. Poverty, crime, dissolution of the nuclear family, education, etc etc. If anything abortions are preventing more kids being born to unfit mothers/absent fathers and allowing women who want to control their future to put off having kids until a better time.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:45 pm to baldona
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Again, almost no one is having more kids for a bigger check. It doesn't work that way.
Now, this is 100% true. Anyone that thinks these people are going out and having sex and going through pregnancy and raising children purely for the small increase they might get from the government is dead wrong. You don't even get that much more money as you increase in family size. The bump is very small.
These young people are having children because they are largely uneducated about sex, and uneducated in general. Sex is very prevalent in low income culture because parents aren't around to teach these kids any different. This is why you see so many kids having kids, and it continues into their 20s.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:46 pm to cwil177
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I can say with 100% certainty that too many abortions is not the biggest problem in the black community
Actually, you can't.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:46 pm to baldona
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This is almost universally wrong. They don't have a new kid to get paid, almost never.
Having worked in a labor unit, I can tell you that this is wrong. It's not as common as some people think, but having a child for the pay check is not uncommon, and certainly not rare.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:47 pm to Tyga Woods
Take away any kind of financial incentive for having kids. Make ghetto women pay for their own kids, they either get a job and become responsible or they stop having kids.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:50 pm to SabiDojo
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Actually, you can't.
You say that too many abortions is the main problem in the black community but give no support to that and why that's an issue. I'm assuming your aversion is due to religions reasons but you didn't explain it at all so I'm just speculating.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:50 pm to SaintBrees
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These young people are having children because they are largely uneducated about sex, and uneducated in general.
I disagree. Today's children know wayyy more about sex at a way younger age than those of us born 30+ years ago. The problem is that they have too much time on their hands. My wife and I hardly ever have sex, because we're too busy raising the kids we currently have, working full time, and spending time together as a family. You could tell a young kid his pecker will fall off if he has sex, he's still going to do it.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:51 pm to cwil177
I wouldn't say it doesn't exist, but I definitely think it is wrong to say that in general, low income women purposely get pregnant by a dead beat purely in order to get more money from the government. The payout isn't exponential. You aren't doubling your government income with each child. It is only increasing a small amount with each additional child.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:52 pm to cwil177
The people living in the flooded houses all over BR that didn't treat for mold won't be long for this world. And there is a lot of them.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:58 pm to cwil177
They are 13% of the population but make up almost 40% of all abortions. They are a minority group in this country and their projection of growth percentage as a race is barely above double digits whereas other minority groups are well over 40%. Black women are five times more likely to abort their baby than a white woman. Religious views aside, you can't expect to have a growing demographic and demand an increase in political power with those numbers. It also indicates a problem within their own culture.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:59 pm to Tyga Woods
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Today's children know wayyy more about sex at a way younger age than those of us born 30+ years ago. The problem is that they have too much time on their hands
Not really. When it comes down to the just having a baby part, I don't think the ages are different at all. I knew what it takes to have a baby at a young age just like kids of today.
The problem is that sex is free. It costs nothing to do. It's also an awesome feeling. Name something or come up with something better for free and poor people will start abusing the shite out of that.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:09 pm to Tyga Woods
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How to stop inner city violence
Sterilization of all males born in the inner city would be a good start.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:22 pm to Tyga Woods
1. VERY harsh penalties for any crime starting at 14 years of age.
Death and make it swift for any sexual/violent offense.
See Singapore if you think it wouldn't work.
2. Entitlement reform. Not sure on the specific answer but creating generations of government raised citizens is clearly not the answer.
3. End the war on drugs.
These things would help but the root of the problem is the family structure and lack of education. This segment of society needs to be totally retrained on what it means to be civilized. Their is too much momentum to stop it. Its only going to get worse.
Death and make it swift for any sexual/violent offense.
See Singapore if you think it wouldn't work.
2. Entitlement reform. Not sure on the specific answer but creating generations of government raised citizens is clearly not the answer.
3. End the war on drugs.
These things would help but the root of the problem is the family structure and lack of education. This segment of society needs to be totally retrained on what it means to be civilized. Their is too much momentum to stop it. Its only going to get worse.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:30 pm to SabiDojo
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It also indicates a problem within their own culture.
Over 70% of pregnancies are outside of marriage. Another statistic that is hard to believe, yet completely ignored by civil right leaders and their media.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:35 pm to jrodLSUke
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yet completely ignored by civil right leaders and their media
They acknowledge this fact but blame it on institutionalized racism, private prisons, interstates, etc etc
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:39 pm to BigEdLSU
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REWARD SUCCESS. Give small business loans to the top 5 in class at inner city trade schools. Full ride scholarship for 3.0 cumulative gpa. Incentivize SUCCESS
The University of Chicago did that on a much smaller scale in a study on a poorly performing high school in the Chicago area. It was in the documentary "Freakonomics". They gave small cash awards each grading period to students who met certain grade requirements, and each cash winner was entered into a drawing for a free limo ride to some school function. Obviously, these are much smaller awards than you mention, but if I recall correctly their study found that the incentives had little impact on student performance.
Here's a Youtube video of the segment from the movie, but it doesn't include the part where they discuss the results of the survey. It focuses on a few individual students. I couldn't find video of the part afterward where one of the guys doing the study gives the result.
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ETA: Here's another Youtube video that cites studies, including the above one, showing that although monetary incentives work well for repetitive mechanical tasks, when the incentivized behavior involves cognitive skill or creative thinking, monetary incentives not only don't work, they can lead to WORSE performance.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 1:52 pm
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