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How much practice would it take for one to shoot well enough to hit a mass
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:25 pm
Shooter in a movie theater? Can you go from shitty to a decent shot going like once every couple weeks for a few months? Or does it take much, much more practice to hit a guy with a handgun for maybe 1o rows away.
Thinking about this theater shooting and wondering how many people carry handguns but couldn't really hit anything with them because they don't shoot well.
Thinking about this theater shooting and wondering how many people carry handguns but couldn't really hit anything with them because they don't shoot well.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:27 pm to baybeefeetz
I would be afraid of firing in a crowd.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:28 pm to baybeefeetz
Even if the shooter isn't hit, the psychological effect of someone firing back serves a purpose.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:29 pm to ellunchboxo
I mean if I bought a gun today and practiced as regularly as I think I would, nobody would be better off with me firing it, I think.
Id probably miss the shooter and just make myself a bigger target.
Id probably miss the shooter and just make myself a bigger target.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:30 pm to baybeefeetz
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Id probably miss the shooter and just make myself a bigger target.
Or you might not.
Plus, what makes the shooter a better marksman than you?
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:30 pm to baybeefeetz
You would save lives if for no other reason than distracting the shooter.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:31 pm to ellunchboxo
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I would be afraid of firing in a crowd.
Legit concern.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:32 pm to weagle99
I am just thinking the shooter will have a wider spray of bullets than whatever I have.
But I am actually interested in how hard it is to get better at shooting. Doesn't seem as hard as free throws or some shite, but still requires practice.
But I am actually interested in how hard it is to get better at shooting. Doesn't seem as hard as free throws or some shite, but still requires practice.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:34 pm to Black n Gold
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You would save lives if for no other reason than distracting the shooter.
Real talk: Your family and people you care about are of much higher importance than strangers in a theater. We would all like to see people get saved, however if the choice is risking death or severe injury by confronting the shooter OR running out / escaping the theater so that you can return home safe to your family, which would you choose?
Just bringing this up as something to think about.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:36 pm to baybeefeetz
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Doesn't seem as hard as free throws or some shite, but still requires practice
I would argue that consistently shooting well, particularly under stress, takes much more practice than basketball.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:36 pm to baybeefeetz
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This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:40 pm to baybeefeetz
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I mean if I bought a gun today and practiced as regularly as I think I would, nobody would be better off with me firing it, I think.
Id probably miss the shooter and just make myself a bigger target
You never know.
On one hand, if someone is holding up people with a gun in a crowded area, I'm not going to try a circus shot to nail him.
On the other hand, if someone is gunning down people and spraying crowds with gunfire, I might just have to use my best judgment given the circumstances and risk posed.
Or, you could be in the second row with a clear 12 foot shot to a gunman intent on murdering everyone, it's chance.
Point being, if you're interested in getting a firearm and becoming proficient, do it. Let the circumstances dictate whether you would use it in that scenario. I'd 100%, no doubt rather be armed in a situation than unarmed, even if I had no firearm proficiency at all (not recommending this, of course).
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:41 pm to baybeefeetz
It's a lot harder than it looks. You immediately go into a total panic mode where it is very difficult to function with fine motor skills.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:51 pm to baybeefeetz
ive always considered myself a decent shot. grew up with guns, shooting targets and hunting plus being in the army.
i got to meet one of the owners of VATA out of slidell through a friend of mine. he took us out on a 6 hour private session. I got sooo much better. my technique improved drastically within just 6 hours. not only did we just shoot targets, we did reload drills and misfire drills as well. all timed to help keep up the pressure of a real scenario.
get an instructor. well worth it.
i got to meet one of the owners of VATA out of slidell through a friend of mine. he took us out on a 6 hour private session. I got sooo much better. my technique improved drastically within just 6 hours. not only did we just shoot targets, we did reload drills and misfire drills as well. all timed to help keep up the pressure of a real scenario.
get an instructor. well worth it.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:53 pm to LSUwag
I'm gonna tell you from first hand experience.
I have said this several times. I shot a guy arm robbing someone.
Basically when it comes to that oh crap moment, you will pretty much shot at body mass.
You won't take the time to work on fundamentals of shooting.
You will do nothing but point shooting. You will extend the firearm out in front of you and pretty much pull the trigger while point shooting at body mass.
Now, depending on distance, your breathing, how comfortable you are with a gun, whether you are terrified or on the aggressive side will all matter but that's a hard equation to calculate
I have said this several times. I shot a guy arm robbing someone.
Basically when it comes to that oh crap moment, you will pretty much shot at body mass.
You won't take the time to work on fundamentals of shooting.
You will do nothing but point shooting. You will extend the firearm out in front of you and pretty much pull the trigger while point shooting at body mass.
Now, depending on distance, your breathing, how comfortable you are with a gun, whether you are terrified or on the aggressive side will all matter but that's a hard equation to calculate
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:58 pm to baybeefeetz
In situations under stress it is very hard to focus on front sight alignment and avoid fixating on a target.
With that said most defense scenarios are a very close range proposition so even a point and shoot defense is better than nothing.
As previous posters have mentioned a good defense is continuous rapid fire at the target. A better defense is aimed fire at the target.
The assailant in this type of engagement doesn't expect any type of resistance so any resistance is a good thing.
Another important point is the need to shoot must be tempered with the need to not be shot. IE you can do no good if you are incapacitated from gunfire.
With that said most defense scenarios are a very close range proposition so even a point and shoot defense is better than nothing.
As previous posters have mentioned a good defense is continuous rapid fire at the target. A better defense is aimed fire at the target.
The assailant in this type of engagement doesn't expect any type of resistance so any resistance is a good thing.
Another important point is the need to shoot must be tempered with the need to not be shot. IE you can do no good if you are incapacitated from gunfire.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:59 pm to baybeefeetz
Center mass, 10 rows away? Not much depending on the individual.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:01 pm to LSUwag
I love guns and it's a blast shooting them. I don't own any cause it's a super expensive hobby and I really just don't trust myself owning one. They have done a bunch of reenactments of mass shootings. The people are never able to get the shooter before he/she kills a lot of people. Even the professionals struggle to draw and target a shooter before he empties his gun. It's just natural instinct to seek cover. You have to fight against it and it takes a lot of training. It can be done. But the shooter will always kill many people, if he/she is really focused on doing it..
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:07 pm to weagle99
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Plus, what makes the shooter a better marksman than you?
A mass shooter doesn't care who or what he hits.
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