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Houston vs. NOLA. Harvey vs. Katrina question.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:20 pm
I was gonna mention this in the stickies Harvey thread, but that all seemed to be legit people helping people and not an outright discussion.
The shelter and The Red Cross at the George R. Brown Center is getting a ton of shite from I believe under 1000 people left in it. They are trying to phase out the shelter and people are pissed. But these people were homeless to begin with? They've really started complaining about food. Also they've mentioned that $9 million is still set aside for the shelters use. Seeming to say that this $9 million should go toward helping these folks? How would that work?
The Katrina mention in my title is because I'd like to know if this occurred anywhere in or near NOLA? I know the Superdome had people fighting to get out. Were there any other shelters in the area that they could not get rid of folks?
It's going to be very interesting to see where Red Cross money and JJ Watts money all go? I am not suggestion Haiti like levels of corruption and nobody getting help, just wondering who gets the help? We already have actual bums complaining about shelter meal quality. This won't end well.
The shelter and The Red Cross at the George R. Brown Center is getting a ton of shite from I believe under 1000 people left in it. They are trying to phase out the shelter and people are pissed. But these people were homeless to begin with? They've really started complaining about food. Also they've mentioned that $9 million is still set aside for the shelters use. Seeming to say that this $9 million should go toward helping these folks? How would that work?
The Katrina mention in my title is because I'd like to know if this occurred anywhere in or near NOLA? I know the Superdome had people fighting to get out. Were there any other shelters in the area that they could not get rid of folks?
It's going to be very interesting to see where Red Cross money and JJ Watts money all go? I am not suggestion Haiti like levels of corruption and nobody getting help, just wondering who gets the help? We already have actual bums complaining about shelter meal quality. This won't end well.
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:22 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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going to be very interesting to see where Red Cross money and JJ Watts money all go?
Not really
They are pocketing it
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:25 pm to LSU alum wannabe
The only thing I remember about wasted effort from Katrina is that if you knew anybody involved in the relief effort, you could get cases of bottled water and hand sanitizer for free, for a long time after.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:26 pm to Walt OReilly
Red Cross I know. I've read the same things.
JJ Watt I think will have to get people to handle this cash and how it is distributed. Somebody somewhere will not be happy or feel slighted and JJ will catch crap for something good he was genuinely trying to do.
JJ Watt I think will have to get people to handle this cash and how it is distributed. Somebody somewhere will not be happy or feel slighted and JJ will catch crap for something good he was genuinely trying to do.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:31 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Gotta love when people getting free shite start complaining about it
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:32 pm to TheHarahanian
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you could get cases of bottled water and hand sanitizer for free, for a long time after.
We had a national guard humvee go down our street today. They were loaded down with water bottles. Not a shred of big damage on our street. I just think they are guardsmen who aren't from here and didn't know where they were.
It's a good thing to have too much now as far as those things go. Thankfully here in my little corner we have reached a point where they are having trouble finding people in need.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:48 pm to LSU alum wannabe
things like this are unavoidable
disaster aid in the days following the event is humanitarian relief
in the months following it becomes something else entirely
think about it
is the multi millions he raised really intended to rebuild houses?
and if so, who qualifies?
what's th distribution plan?
disaster aid in the days following the event is humanitarian relief
in the months following it becomes something else entirely
think about it
is the multi millions he raised really intended to rebuild houses?
and if so, who qualifies?
what's th distribution plan?
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:58 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Houston vs. NOLA. Harvey vs. Katrina question
2 totally different storms 12 years apart and you're trying to draw comparisons? Jesus
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:01 pm to tgrbaitn08
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totally different storms 12 years apart and you're trying to draw comparisons? Jesus
Read the post?
Not really a comparison just a question on how one specific thing played out with both.
I could have worded my title better, I guess? But this was not meant as a head to head comparison.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:01 pm to LSU alum wannabe
It's really stupid in A lot of ways to try and compare this kind of stuff.
The rednecks love this kind of thing, so congrats on the bat signal for them.
LOL
The rednecks love this kind of thing, so congrats on the bat signal for them.
LOL
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:03 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Were there any other shelters in the area that they could not get rid of folks?
New Orleans was flooded for weeks, there were no shelters in town. The people were evacuated out to other shelters in different states. Maybe at those out of state centers people lingered.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:06 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Katrina had the arse hole mayors of Houston and Atl buying their life long homeless folks one way bus tickets to Nola.
Two weeks afte Katrina (like now to Harvey) there was still several feet of water in over 75% of the entire city of Nola.
Also Nola residents got split from their families and made get on this bus or that bus and they wouldn't even tel the residents where the busses were headed. Your bus may stop in Charlotte and your moms may have stopped in KC.
this isn't even brining in the fact that cell phones were in their infancy to the point that there were text messages that would take longer than 2-3 weeks t go through much less a call
Two weeks afte Katrina (like now to Harvey) there was still several feet of water in over 75% of the entire city of Nola.
Also Nola residents got split from their families and made get on this bus or that bus and they wouldn't even tel the residents where the busses were headed. Your bus may stop in Charlotte and your moms may have stopped in KC.
this isn't even brining in the fact that cell phones were in their infancy to the point that there were text messages that would take longer than 2-3 weeks t go through much less a call This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:12 pm to SuperSaint
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Also Nola residents got split from their families and made get on this bus or that bus and they wouldn't even tel the residents where the busses were headed. Your bus may stop in Charlotte and your moms may have stopped in KC.
Really? WTF? I'd have been pissed too.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:13 pm to Jake88
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New Orleans was flooded for weeks, there were no shelters in town. The people were evacuated out to other shelters in different states. Maybe at those out of state centers people lingered.
This is correct.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:27 pm to notiger1997
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The rednecks love this kind of thing, so congrats on the bat signal for them.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:29 pm to SuperSaint
Yeah, I should have noted that the OP wasn't being a jerk or posting anything that was wrong. I just know how these kind of things will go.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:35 pm to Cosmo
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Gotta love when people getting free shite start complaining about it
In 2017 America, that doesn't even move the needle on Fox News let alone any other outlet.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:35 pm to notiger1997
I feel you
You never know.
People forget just how much was learned from Katrina on every single level. I don't doubt one bit that people weee saved in Irma and Harvey because of the horrible lessons learned by Katrina. And it wasn't just black people, but like I said, you never know about these threads.... people were not rapping and pillaging the super dome, they weren't shooting AKa at Helis, GWB didn't blow the levee, and Brian Williams didn't see gangs roaming the halls of the Ritz he was staying at and watching bodies float down the street in the FQ.... but...
You never know.
People forget just how much was learned from Katrina on every single level. I don't doubt one bit that people weee saved in Irma and Harvey because of the horrible lessons learned by Katrina. And it wasn't just black people, but like I said, you never know about these threads.... people were not rapping and pillaging the super dome, they weren't shooting AKa at Helis, GWB didn't blow the levee, and Brian Williams didn't see gangs roaming the halls of the Ritz he was staying at and watching bodies float down the street in the FQ.... but...
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:49 pm to Cosmo
quote:another way Katrina wasn't comparable...
Gotta love when people getting free shite start complaining about it
Like when FEMA turned away Walmart trucks full of water and supplies and barred it coming into the city, FEMA denied allowing Amtrak to freely evacuate people out of the city, FEMA repeatedly turned away medical supply shipments at the parish line on the way to Methodist where people already had rigor Mortus setting in, FEMA turned doctors and medical personal away at the parish line and wouldn't allow them to come help
Oh and the Army Corp of Engineers failed to put the proper T-Walls that were paid for by the tax payers and that the citizens were undoubtedly safe from the storm, unfortunately the t-wall money was pocketed and the flood walls failed.....
Comparisons are simpleminded, dim-witted, dense, foolish.....
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