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Home Renovation - Framing Inspection Question
Posted on 3/20/16 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 3/20/16 at 5:24 pm
We are in the midst of a major renovation on our home (EBR Parish) and we've reached the framing inspection stage of the process. There is one part of the home that we are not touching at all, and while this piece met code requirements when built it would not today if constructed as is.
My question is - will this cause us a problem with our inspection, or are they only inspecting that which is newly constructed?
My question is - will this cause us a problem with our inspection, or are they only inspecting that which is newly constructed?
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Posted on 3/20/16 at 5:29 pm to DrEdgeLSU
framing is perrty much framing
why is the old not to code ?
2 X 2 studs ?
why is the old not to code ?
2 X 2 studs ?
Posted on 3/20/16 at 5:30 pm to DrEdgeLSU
The stuff on my houses have been grandfathered unless you touch it
Posted on 3/20/16 at 5:34 pm to DrEdgeLSU
Without knowing specifically what you have done in the way of mods, it's impossible to to tell you that it will be OK.
A general rule for Building Inspectors is to "yes sir, no sir" them and if they ask you a question that you do not know the answer to, you do not freelance an answer.
This is partly where competent GCs earn their keep.
You apparently don't have one.
Good luck.
A general rule for Building Inspectors is to "yes sir, no sir" them and if they ask you a question that you do not know the answer to, you do not freelance an answer.
This is partly where competent GCs earn their keep.
You apparently don't have one.
Good luck.
This post was edited on 3/20/16 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 3/20/16 at 5:38 pm to soccerfüt
Our GC suggests it should be grandfathered based on past experience.
There is a stairway to a landing whose only purpose is to be for attic entry (no bedrooms, bathrooms, entry or exit, etc) - it is not 36" wide. That's the concern and our inspection is tomorrow.
There is a stairway to a landing whose only purpose is to be for attic entry (no bedrooms, bathrooms, entry or exit, etc) - it is not 36" wide. That's the concern and our inspection is tomorrow.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 5:53 pm to Hammertime
Hammer time - as a builder or homeowner?
Posted on 3/20/16 at 5:54 pm to DrEdgeLSU
quote:
they only inspecting that which is newly constructed?
This. The rest is grandfathered in.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 5:56 pm to Drop4Loss
quote:
framing is perrty much framing
Negative. Things have changed a lot with wind loads, engineered products, and the IBC over the years.
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2 X 2 studs
Wut?
This post was edited on 3/20/16 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:00 pm to stout
No good?
I saved a ton using 2"x2" studs.
I saved a ton using 2"x2" studs.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:01 pm to stout
Thanks Stout.
We are hoping this to be the case as it would create issues to have to rebuild this set of stairs just to comply with code despite not touching it to begin with.
We are hoping this to be the case as it would create issues to have to rebuild this set of stairs just to comply with code despite not touching it to begin with.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:04 pm to VetteGuy
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No good?
Nah, man. 2x2s are good for at least 14' walls with no extra bracing. Plus, you gain an extra 2" on every wall vs 2x4 studs.
The last time I saw a 2x2 anything in residential use was on the trusses of the old style sardine can metal roofs of mobile homes from the late 70's and early 80's. So many of them opened right up during Rita.
You can't even fix those roofs outside of using kool seal on it or building a sub-roof over it.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:07 pm to stout
I went 2"x6".
Per engineering, 2x4 woulda worked, but I just wanted extra strength.
Per engineering, 2x4 woulda worked, but I just wanted extra strength.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:08 pm to DrEdgeLSU
quote:
We are hoping this to be the case as it would create issues to have to rebuild this set of stairs just to comply with code despite not touching it to begin with.
FYI some code enforcers, in my experience, take the opportunity to enforce and interpret codes how they want to so I hope it works out for you. I am in a Parish that allows you to hire your own IBC inspector for any project so we don't even deal with the Parish guy anymore because he is very bad about interpreting things they way he "thinks" it should be done vs what the code actually states. Other builders have actually gotten physical with him on job sites over it.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:16 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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DrEdgeLSU
Shouldn't your contractor know the answer?
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:33 pm to QuietTiger
As I said before, he is almost certain it won't be an issue. It's not like this is spelled out somewhere. Current code is pretty black and white, but it's not as clear what is enforced and what's not during a renovation. Logic tells me that there are likely dozens of other things in the house that are out of compliance since it was built 50 years ago. But I also know that law, regulation and code enforcement don't always follow logic.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:39 pm to DrEdgeLSU
if you don't open up any walls, they can't ask you to update the framing in those walls.
If you are trying to tie into an existing area, tho, (ie: an overbuild on an existing roof) you will need to update or prove that the area being tied into is up to code and structurally sound all the way to the foundation
If you are trying to tie into an existing area, tho, (ie: an overbuild on an existing roof) you will need to update or prove that the area being tied into is up to code and structurally sound all the way to the foundation
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:44 pm to DrEdgeLSU
The Correct answer
If you are renovating less than 50% of the home or less than 50% of the value (Usually which ever is greater as determined by local code enforcement) than preexisting construction id not required to be brought up to todays code.
However, if the parish code enforcement officer sees a life safety code issue, he will likely call it out. (Saftey Issues)
If you are renovating less than 50% of the home or less than 50% of the value (Usually which ever is greater as determined by local code enforcement) than preexisting construction id not required to be brought up to todays code.
However, if the parish code enforcement officer sees a life safety code issue, he will likely call it out. (Saftey Issues)
Posted on 3/20/16 at 6:49 pm to MoreOrLes
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MoreOrLes
You're more blunt that me. But hey, it gets the message out there.
Good luck OP.
Posted on 3/20/16 at 7:38 pm to MoreOrLes
quote:
The Correct answer
If you are renovating less than 50% of the home or less than 50% of the value (Usually which ever is greater as determined by local code enforcement) than preexisting construction id not required to be brought up to todays code.
However, if the parish code enforcement officer sees a life safety code issue, he will likely call it out. (Saftey Issues)
This
Posted on 3/20/16 at 7:41 pm to Kajungee
Can you guys point me to the code section or somewhere I can read that? How exactly would an inspector be able to quantify that?
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