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re: Having Gun Discussion On Facebook W/ A Friend
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:46 pm to LesMiles BFF
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:46 pm to LesMiles BFF
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The main discussion is how to lower illegal him violence
LesMiles BFF has lost control of feminism.
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:47 pm to Breesus
lets hand over the gun and ammo retail industry over to them police stations manned 24/7 doing retina scans... i'm not over this one yet.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:47 pm to USAF Hart
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there isn't a political figure out there that is willing to declare an all out stoppage on allowing people in to America which is unfortunate
Trump 2016
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:47 pm to CoachKlein
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I see all the down votes but I actually agree with you to an extent
Private ownership of guns in Mexico is basically illegal yet their per capita murder rate is five times higher than in the U.S.
Facts matter.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:48 pm to Breesus
You still don't get how to read statistics. Just stop. It's a per capita statistic. Not random 100,000 people.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:49 pm to Chad504boy
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lets hand over the gun and ammo retail industry over to them police stations manned 24/7 doing retina scans... i'm not over this one yet.
That's fricking insane.
Let's hand over all of our bank accounts as well. Anytime you want money you go to the local IRS office and ask for it.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:50 pm to LesMiles BFF
Mental health is the issue. The fact that no mental health tests are required for gun ownership is pathetic.
I say: you must first pass a strenuous mental health exam in order to purchase a gun and license.
License must be renewed every 1-2 years, which would also require a mental health exam.
And remember: the Laffayette and Virginia shooters purchased their guns legally.
I say: you must first pass a strenuous mental health exam in order to purchase a gun and license.
License must be renewed every 1-2 years, which would also require a mental health exam.
And remember: the Laffayette and Virginia shooters purchased their guns legally.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:50 pm to LesMiles BFF
Please, by all means, give us some ideas. Instead of just laying out the oppositions argument, lay out your own.
The fact is these last few people who went out on a rampage passed the federal background check to obtain a firearm.
Beyond that, what else needs to be done? I honestly don't know what else except a more in depth background check. Even that is not a solution. The guy yesterday would pass any background check with exception of getting hired by any other tv station.
Please, give us some common sense ideas.
The fact is these last few people who went out on a rampage passed the federal background check to obtain a firearm.
Beyond that, what else needs to be done? I honestly don't know what else except a more in depth background check. Even that is not a solution. The guy yesterday would pass any background check with exception of getting hired by any other tv station.
Please, give us some common sense ideas.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:50 pm to Breesus
I have no idea why my phone keeps wanting to replace "gun" with "him".
Such a strange autocorrect.
Such a strange autocorrect.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:53 pm to LesMiles BFF
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by LesMiles BFF I have no idea why my phone keeps wanting to replace "gun" with "him". Such a strange autocorrect.
This is my rifle, this is my gun.
This is for shooting, this is for fun.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:53 pm to magildachunks
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And remember: the Laffayette and Virginia shooters purchased their guns legally.
Lafayette and Virginia weren't technically mass shootings. The definition for statistics are at least four deaths (that can include the shooter), but 79% of mass shooters purchased their gun legally.
In addition, there's not a single documented case of an armed civilian stopping a mass shooter in the U.S.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:54 pm to BamaAcadien
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You still don't get how to read statistics. Just stop. It's a per capita statistic. Not random 100,000 people.
Do you not understand that America is made up of 300 million racially and ethnically diverse people spread out into 50 states with their own history and cultures.
Italy is made up of 60 million people who are for the most part identical in comparison to America.
Per capita doesn't mean it's a good comparison, and it also means that you're comparing a cross section of the country. Which is incomparable.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:54 pm to gatorrocks
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Please, by all means, give us some ideas. Instead of just laying out the oppositions argument, lay out your own. The fact is these last few people who went out on a rampage passed the federal background check to obtain a firearm. Beyond that, what else needs to be done? I honestly don't know what else except a more in depth background check. Even that is not a solution. The guy yesterday would pass any background check with exception of getting hired by any other tv station. Please, give us some common sense ideas.
Sorry, bro. I've tried multiple times over the past month to have civil discussions about this very topic only to get shouted down.
I'm on my phone right now and am in no mood to try and rebut such zingers as "guns don't kill people. People kill people."
And I didn't start the thread. Let the OP bang his head up against a brick wall for a change.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:54 pm to USAF Hart
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He posted a chart that said America has 3.7 murders per 100,000 residents. The next closest is Italy at 0.68.
Is this even accurate?
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:55 pm to waiting4saturday
The problem starts at home where the criminals are raised, fix the parents that are raising the criminals and that's your start to fixing the problem with all the crimes in the U.S.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:55 pm to magildachunks
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you must first pass a strenuous mental health exam in order to purchase a gun and license.
License must be renewed every 1-2 years, which would also require a mental health exam.
Who writes those standards? And what qualifies as a mental health problem? ADHD? Anxiety? Whatever the favor of the month is?
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:56 pm to magildachunks
See. That's not a bad idea.
The ONLY caveat to this is the mental health professional not required to be a government employee.
Although I do see a security risk in that if some a-hole is pissed he didn't pass his psych eval he might take it out on the evaluator.
Wonder what kind of eval that would be.
What kind of liability does the evaluator assume if they pass them and two months later they go on a rampage
The ONLY caveat to this is the mental health professional not required to be a government employee.
Although I do see a security risk in that if some a-hole is pissed he didn't pass his psych eval he might take it out on the evaluator.
Wonder what kind of eval that would be.
What kind of liability does the evaluator assume if they pass them and two months later they go on a rampage
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:56 pm to USAF Hart
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Stop allowing places like Wal-Mart and Bass Pro Shop to sell firearms and ammo. Build precincts at every police station that are manned 24/7 that can sell weapons and ammo to citizens who have the proper documentation and background check approval. Run thumb prints, retina scans, the whole nine yards. You could essentially kill multiple birds with one stone. Most people don't like going to police stations, especially if they have warrants out. When the station runs a background check, if something comes up, they can be arrested on the spot.
Spoken like a true socialist - take economic power away from the capitalist system and give it to the government. After all, they know whats best and they SURELY wouldn't sell firearms to wind up in the hands of drug cartels would they? Go ahead and get Obama fired up with the teleprompter speeches saying stuff like "If you like your firearms, you can keep it!" - the sheep will be BAAAAAAAA'ing all night long!
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:56 pm to Breesus
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Per capita doesn't mean it's a good comparison, and it also means that you're comparing a cross section of the country. Which is incomparable.
It's not a cross section of the country. It's per capita so it is actually an adjusted number for the entire population of the countries so you DO get a comparable number.
Mexico is ethnically homogenous (like Italy) and has a higher crime rate than the U.S. Your logic doesn't hold up.
This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:58 pm to gatorrocks
How about you have to make so much legal taxed money per year in order to own a gun, legally or illegally. and then you have to take a polygraph tests when you purchase a gun and they asks you "do you want to shoot a bunch of mother frickers". only then will this country be serious about saving lives.
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