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Have you ever got in over your head trying to do a good deed?

Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:41 pm
Posted by PortHudsonPlaya
Houston
Member since Jul 2017
3170 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:41 pm
First off, I commend JJ Watt for using his platform, and at the end of the day, I'm sure there's $30 million dollars worth of Harvey assistance out there. With that said, his fundraiser started out with a $50,000 goal and is nearing $30 million. As great as this is, how much would you be sweating right now on how to appropriately put to good use that amount of other people's money?

Only thing I got was after a friends unexpected death funds were raised for the funeral. There was a couple thousand dollars left over after everything was paid for. We just decided to donate it to an appropriate charity associated with the deceased and actually got some anonymous hate mail for doing so.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22391 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:44 pm to
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how much would you be sweating right now on how to appropriately put to good use that amount of other people's money?


Yeah, im sure JJ is working that excel spreadsheet like crazy!
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47462 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:48 pm to
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Yeah, im sure JJ is working that excel spreadsheet like crazy!


Yea, the OP is kinda tarded. Easy enough to let the money sit for a couple weeks while hiring someone with big-time charity operations under the belt.

Would easily be worth a six figure contract(6mo to a year) to get qualified candidates. And who would bat an eye if 29,850,000 is properly given to those in need as a result.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5857 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:50 pm to
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As great as this is, how much would you be sweating right now on how to appropriately put to good use that amount of other people's money?


Not at all. I would be Red-Crossing that money left and right until my net worth went up by $25 million.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:54 pm to
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Not at all. I would be Red-Crossing that money left and right until my net worth went up by $25 million.


it is amazing how all that money donated to Red Cross doesnt actually go to the cause.
Posted by SilverStallion
Member since Aug 2017
1999 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:58 pm to
Same thing as Goodwill.

People drop of free donations, they turn around and sell it for 100% profit minus overhead.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:11 pm to
Opinions, assholes everyone has one.

You cant be paralyzed trying to pls the mob.

When possible, its ideal to offer refunds pro rata, or 100% until money is gone.
Posted by 14caratgoldjones
Uniontown, Al
Member since Aug 2009
1316 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:47 pm to
Yep, took a bunch of necessities down from central Alabama right after Katrina to south Ms. Ice, diapers, batteries, bottled water, etc. Pulled into a shelter southwest of Hattiesburg at a church off of the interstate. Folks saw that I had supplies and rushed the truck. Started divying out what I had the best I could. As I was running low and needed to get the rest to another shelter and pulling out of the parking lot people were trying to jump in the bed of the truck and hitting it with sticks and whatever they could get their hands on. Two women made it in the bed and wouldn't get out until I gave them the rest of what I had left. After 30 minutes of neguotiating they did get out but I was just trying to do a good deed and get down the road. Scary situation when strangers are hanging all over your vehicle unwilling to get off unless their demands are met.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
34970 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:50 pm to
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Two women made it in the bed and wouldn't get out until I gave them the rest of what I had left.


Congrats!
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:12 pm to
I think you'd be surprised how fast $30 mil gets spent in a situation like that. It won't be hard to find people in need.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:30 pm to
He could use it to pay one month of Al Gore's electric bill.


Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38723 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:33 pm to
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Only thing I got was after a friends unexpected death funds were raised for the funeral. There was a couple thousand dollars left over after everything was paid for. We just decided to donate it to an appropriate charity associated with the deceased and actually got some anonymous hate mail for doing so.


Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29971 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:14 pm to
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Same thing as Goodwill.

People drop of free donations, they turn around and sell it for 100% profit minus overhead.





Yeah, and where do those "profits" go?

People post a lot of crap about charities but have no real idea about what each charity's purpose or charter are.

And then there is that stupid Facebook meme full of either outdated or incorrect information.

If you want good info on a charity, look them up in Charity Navigator.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166127 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:16 pm to
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how much would you be sweating right now on how to appropriately put to good use that amount of other people's money?


yeah, it'd be so difficult to have a grant application process for people to be given ex (25k or 50k) each to go towards rebuilding of their flooded homes. i mean, that's 300 families he can help by giving 50k to and that only adds up to 15 million.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 3:18 pm
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:25 pm to
Whoever donated to him is stupid. frick whoever disagrees with me.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6249 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:32 pm to
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Yep, took a bunch of necessities down from central Alabama right after Katrina to south Ms. Ice, diapers, batteries, bottled water, etc. Pulled into a shelter southwest of Hattiesburg at a church off of the interstate. Folks saw that I had supplies and rushed the truck. Started divying out what I had the best I could. As I was running low and needed to get the rest to another shelter and pulling out of the parking lot people were trying to jump in the bed of the truck and hitting it with sticks and whatever they could get their hands on. Two women made it in the bed and wouldn't get out until I gave them the rest of what I had left. After 30 minutes of neguotiating they did get out but I was just trying to do a good deed and get down the road. Scary situation when strangers are hanging all over your vehicle unwilling to get off unless their demands are met.


Just in case you ever type something worth reading (and this may have been?), mash that Return Key (the one with the crooked arrow pointing Left), after every other period.

It will look like less words, and be spaced out enough that someone can read it without too much damn effort.

(and it might even make you look like you went to skool a few years)

Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12604 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:37 pm to
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With that said, his fundraiser started out with a $50,000 goal and is nearing $30 million. As great as this is, how much would you be sweating right now on how to appropriately put to good use that amount of other people's money?


I know you're getting bashed in this thread, but this is a legit concern. What is he and his foundation going to do with the money?

The Ice Bucket Challenge that was a huge viral sensation a few years ago raised a shite load of money. The ALS Association was inundated with funds that they had to manage, yet they didn't have the necessary resources/personnel/expertise to manage that kind of money.

I know it sounds stupid, but it's a real challenge to properly appropriate the huge influx of funds when you don't have the structure in place to do so. It'll be interesting to follow what happens with that $30M. I'm in no way questioning his intention or saying that something ill-fated will become of the money. I am genuinely intrigued by the challenge.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 3:39 pm
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12604 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:40 pm to
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how much would you be sweating right now on how to appropriately put to good use that amount of other people's money?



yeah, it'd be so difficult to have a grant application process for people to be given ex (25k or 50k) each to go towards rebuilding of their flooded homes. i mean, that's 300 families he can help by giving 50k to and that only adds up to 15 million.


But you're missing the point. Who is going to review the grants? What is the grant application process? Who would follow-up on the grant money use?

Again, think big picture. It's $30M after all.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166127 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:41 pm to
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But you're missing the point. Who is going to review the grants? What is the grant application process? Who would follow-up on the grant money use?


A) You literally think JJ Watt's charity is JJ Watt on his sofa?

B) You literally don't think 30m can't buy "staff support" to help with whatever administration system needed?
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12604 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:44 pm to
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quote:

But you're missing the point. Who is going to review the grants? What is the grant application process? Who would follow-up on the grant money use?



A) You literally think JJ Watt's charity is JJ Watt on his sofa?

B) You literally don't think 30m can't buy "staff support" to help with whatever administration system needed?


A. You use the word "literally" like a valley girl. Stop it. The Board of Directors consists of his mom, a dude with an MBA, an attorney, and a financial planner--likely all people he knew growing up, in school, etc.

B. Thirty million dollars can certainly buy "staff support." Where is he going to hire the help? Who is experienced in handling that kind of process? The only people who are experienced in the management of these sorts of processes are already working for large non-profits. You think his foundation is going to lure them from their current roles to manage this one-time influx of cash?

From this it sounds like there is one dude reviewing applications for school grants that they currently handle.



That's all I'm saying. Yes, half of the money can go to 'management' of the funds. Or his foundation can just admit that they are in no position to handle that kind of money, and pass it along to a larger organization to handle. Which is what I see happening.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 3:49 pm
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