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Has anyone here suffered from Insomina? How do you beat it?

Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:49 am
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:49 am
I have been dealing with occasional insomnia for a few months now

I will lie in bed and be unable to fall asleep for hours. I usually try to go to bed at 10:30 or so, but I will lie there for a good 4 hours trying to sleep, and not fall asleep until 2:30 or so, then have to get up at 7:00 for work.

It sucks arse. What can I do to beat it? I have tried everything, taking over the counter sleep aids, moving my bed to be closer to air flow, different bed sheets, changing what clothes I wear to bed, eating habits, TV on, TV off. I never have been a coffee or caffeine drinker so that's not it.

It started in June or so... that's when I was done with therapy from a leg injury and could start working out again. I am starting to think it has to do with my working out. I never have insomnia on the weekends, and I never workout on the weekend. I work out during the week, which is when I have insomnia. I work out after work, around 5:30-6:00. All I do is run on the treadmill for a few miles, no weights yet. On nights when my insomnia is bad and I hardly get any sleep, I won't work out the next day because I am too tired, and I sleep fine. When I was in Oklahoma City for work last month and was in a hotel I didn't work out and slept fine.
Posted by The Ostrich
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:50 am to
get some real arse pills
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:51 am to
right handed
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:52 am to
Audiobook +wireless Bluetooth headset = ZZZZZZZZZZZ

Works everytime in minutes. It distracts your mind and then nighty, nite.
Posted by lsut2005
Northshore
Member since Jul 2009
2596 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:52 am to
Having almost an identical issue to yours. It usually happens once a week. Try to go to sleep around 10 and can't fall asleep until 2 and am up at 6 for work. It started around a month ago. It's no fun.
Posted by Walt OReilly
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:52 am to
I take pills

And sometimes those don't even work

It really sucks
Posted by sleepytime
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:53 am to
Are you under a lot of stress?
Posted by kilo1234
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Has anyone here suffered from Insomina? How do you beat it?


I beat it by going to sleep. Works every time.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:56 am to
It's so miserable. I take an arse ton of melatonin, and sometimes Xanax along with it. I've tried trazadone, but it wasn't great.

I recently downloaded the Pzizz app. I've tried many other white noise, brain waves, guided meditation, etc., apps, without a ton of success. It may be a fluke, but I fell asleep easily last night with Pzizz (in conjunction with melatonin), and managed to stay asleep. I'm hopeful.
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Are you under a lot of stress?


Not really, but perhaps I am stressing out about stressing out.

When this first started, I would wake up violently after having fallen asleep taking a big gasp for air and it felt like my heart had stopped, because I had not been breathing. This would happen multiple times a night.

That doesn't happen anymore, but its in the back of my mind. Maybe I am stressing out about that possibly happening.

I don't snore so therefore I don't have sleep apnea, unless there is another version of sleep apnea to where you simply don't breathe.
Posted by Mouth
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:58 am to
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sleepytime


Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:59 am to
Watch Bob Ross paint. It works!
Posted by accnodefense
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

I recently downloaded the Pzizz app. I've tried many other white noise, brain waves, guided meditation, etc., apps, without a ton of success. It may be a fluke, but I fell asleep easily last night with Pzizz (in conjunction with melatonin), and managed to stay asleep. I'm hopeful.


I bought some Emergen-ZZZ last week. First night I took it I had no trouble sleeping, but it was the night after I had bad insomnia and hardly got any sleep, and I didn't work out that day. I thought it worked great!

But yesterday I worked out, and took it, and it didn't do jack shite.

I have also used ZZZ Quil in the past, but haven't used it since this started happening. I might go there next, but I haven't used it yet because my previous experiences with it is that it wasn't so great at having me fall asleep, but it was too good at making me stay asleep when I finally did fall asleep - I would have a really hard time getting up.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

am starting to think it has to do with my working out. I never have insomnia on the weekends, and I never workout on the weekend. I work out during the week, which is when I have insomnia. I work out after work, around 5:30-6:00.


I'm the opposite - I'm more likely to have sleeplessness when I do not work out. I was going to recommend exercise as the first option until I got to this point.

I would say that routine is absolutely vital and breaking routine is your biggest trigger (maybe?).

So, I would recommend that you eat right, continue to get exercise and set a fairly rigid schedule. One option might be to move your workout to the morning. Follow this up by having dinner a little earlier than usual. Shut down most of the lights in the home around 8. Take a meltanonin supplement around 9, then do something that typically results in sleepiness for you (whether that be reading, paperwork, whatever - something that is not necessarily unpleasant, but also not likely to get/keep your mind racing), and then try to retire at the onset of sleepiness from the melatonin - or 10:00p.m. (or earlier, if you're having to get up way early to exercise in the morning).

I can't stress enough that eating correctly, following a schedule, exercise, and getting light levels correct (and I've had success with this even without melatonin supplements, although they clearly work for me) have resulted in my best successes over occasional, but irritating bouts of insomnia in the past - I'm at the tail end of one now that has been going on for about 6 weeks or so. (But this one has been mild by comparison to those in the past.)
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3468 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:02 pm to
Have you tried kava kava? My mother in law has issues sleeping, I got her this and she puts 10 drops in some juice at night and sleeps great. I use it occasionally, but only if I am planning to go to bed within the hour and not getting up too early.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89472 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

When this first started, I would wake up violently after having fallen asleep taking a big gasp for air and it felt like my heart had stopped, because I had not been breathing.


While not this severe, this sort of thing is a common trigger for me - I'm ready to go to sleep, happy to go to sleep and actually drift off - and before I get to REM sleep, I wake up to a noise, movement, heck, the sound of my own snoring at times, and I jar awake. That is usually the beginning of a multiple week fight with insomnia. Thank G-d it doesn't happen more than once a year or so.
Posted by accnodefense
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Member since Dec 2010
6279 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:16 pm to
I found on Wikipedia that physical exercise can cause insomnia

quote:

Physical exercise. Exercise-induced insomnia is common in athletes in the form of prolonged sleep onset latency.[36]


I'll try moving my workouts to the morning for now.
Posted by patchesohoulihan_007
Member since Jul 2015
2054 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:20 pm to
I constantly struggle with being able to fall asleep. It drives me crazy to lie in bed waiting to fall asleep. The most success I've had is taking some melatonin and reading with just a dim light by the bed. However that doesn't always work.

Honestly for me its all about finding stuff to do to fill the void while everyone else is asleep. Video games, reading, puzzles, play chess online, movies. Just find something that interests you while your awake. I say that because I can't lay in bed not doing anything for hours and hours every night.

Hope you can find something to help you get some sleep.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 12:22 pm
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:21 pm to
Have small children.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29456 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:21 pm to
Ambien, but get in bed when you take it. I shared an Ambien adventure here recently....shite was crazy. Works like a champ as long as you let it work.

Or you can watch golf.




This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 12:23 pm
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