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re: Grandpa of teen killed in OK burglary says AR-15 is unfair advantage.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:34 am to Tiger Prawn
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:34 am to Tiger Prawn
I get that...I just think first degree murder is excessive
I'm not claiming an improper application of law. I'm saying the law sucks because it has zero nuance
I'm not claiming an improper application of law. I'm saying the law sucks because it has zero nuance
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:36 am to StrongSafety
quote:
The perps usually aren't trying to kill-- usually they are just trying to take hings that can be replaced
USUALLY
I don't know about you, but if someone breaks into my house while I'm at home...I'm not taking a chance that USUALLY burglars aren't trying to kill me. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:37 am to DelU249
It's there to discourage people from participating in felonious activities.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:38 am to GaryMyMan
bunch of dindu nuffins. Glad these thugs were disposed off
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:39 am to knowingabyss
This is so funny, his grandson breaking the law, guess it would've been fair if they stole everything....
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:41 am to CaptainsWafer
I know that, I just think it's stupid because I don't think it discourages people but even if it did, it just leads to someone getting an excessive sentence
21 year olds don't think about consequences. they don't know about the law...it basically in too many cases IMO creates a "one strike and you're out" law
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:41 am to DelU249
If her record is otherwise fairly clean, then I would think she's got a shot to take a plea deal for a lesser charge than 1st degree
But the easy solution is to not be a POS committing felonies and try to rob people.
But the easy solution is to not be a POS committing felonies and try to rob people.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:43 am to knowingabyss
quote:
Grandpa of teen killed in OK burglary says AR-15 is unfair advantage
This is why certain people/groups never evolve
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:43 am to Tiger Prawn
yeah, usually...
if they kill me, i'll just be more careful next time
if they kill me, i'll just be more careful next time
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:43 am to DelU249
quote:
21 year olds don't think about consequences
most 21 year olds also manage to make it to 22 without being a getaway driver for an armed robbery.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:45 am to DelU249
quote:
21 year olds don't think about consequences. they don't know about the law...it basically in too many cases IMO creates a "one strike and you're out" law
If you're 21 and you aren't thinking of the consequences of your actions when committing a home invasion, armed robbery, or any sort of violent felony, then there is no hope for you.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 9:46 am
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:45 am to Tiger Prawn
quote:obviously.
But the easy solution is to not be a POS committing felonies and try to rob people
quote:as a matter of law she's committed first degree murder. as a matter of common sense...no. so the starting position is first degree murder and she pleas down to what? 20 years, 15 for good behavior?
would think she's got a shot to take a plea deal for a lesser charge than 1st degree
the morons who went into that house didn't have a gun to their head...well, you know what I mean
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:46 am to Pectus
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They were burglering
I don't know Texas law but in many states it would be considered aggravated burglary.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:47 am to DelU249
Just wanted to use the word felonious.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:48 am to SabiDojo
I don't think so, I think this is a great way to learn about consequences...10 years of prison (and prisons are fricked up) would probably teach you
but first degree murder? i'm not crying a river over here, I just think this law is stupid.
she is a criminal and needs to go to jail...but first degree murder? come on, that's ridiculous.
but first degree murder? i'm not crying a river over here, I just think this law is stupid.
she is a criminal and needs to go to jail...but first degree murder? come on, that's ridiculous.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:48 am to MorbidTheClown
Break into a gun free home.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:50 am to DoUrden
Perfect. I mean EXACTLY as I imagined her to look. 3/4 ain't bad.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:50 am to civiltiger07
quote:yup and not because there's a law that charges you with first degree murder for being the getaway driver for an armed robbery
most 21 year olds also manage to make it to 22 without being a getaway driver for an armed robbery
she deserves to go to the pokey and has committed a serious crime...but first degree murder? that's preposterous, just my opinion.
that's capital murder
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