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GQ article about the Will Smith Shooting

Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:44 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:44 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:46 pm to
Thanks for the cliffs
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

It's a long one


TWSS
Posted by Tactical Insertion
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:48 pm to
I'm just here for the Jalen tweets
Posted by Breauxsif
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:49 pm to
That was such a sad situation. Totally avoidable. Now Cardell Hayes will be spending the rest of his life behind bars.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:18 pm to
The author would seem to have quite the bias towards Mr. Hayes' claims.

Mr. Hayes is portrayed as the victim.
Posted by TSLG
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:21 pm to
It tells the story of the Will Smith shooting, and the story of the man who shot him. However, unlike many reports, this article does not portray the shooter as a thug.

As a life long saints fan, I, unfortunately, kind of agree with this version of that night. :(
Posted by tiderider
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:33 pm to
good article ...
Posted by schexyoung
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:35 pm to
I can't be the only one that thought of this Will Smith before clicking the link, right?




EDIT - Great article, even for GQ standards.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 7:42 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:10 pm to
Amazing article. Should be an interesting trial. I think a good lawyer could hang that jury with the facts presented.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:12 pm to
It's the most stupidest ignorant fricking article ever. Cardell was a thug wanna be piece of shite.
Posted by stinkdawg
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:14 pm to
Illuminati casualty
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:34 pm to
Will was such an upstanding citizen. Dragging his wife down the street by her hair and whatnot.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:45 pm to
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It's a long one


Look at you, knowing your audience.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 8:52 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

Cardell certainly looked like he could shoot a man over a dented fender




So basically he was charged because of racism

quote:

The white guys apparently saw the gun in Cardell's hand, because they converged on Kevin. They were throwing punches but not connecting because Kevin is tall and rangy and has a brown belt in Kenpo and squats 350 just to warm up. Mostly, he was worried about avoiding an assault charge. He had his eye on Cardell, though.




quote:

Racquel was between Smith and Cardell, keeping distance between two big men. Cardell, Kevin swears, was being careful to keep his hands at his side. Smith swung once, twice, a third time, three sloppy rights that made glancing contact.

Please don't do that, Cardell said.




Lolz

quote:

He shot Smith, shot him eight times, one in the side and seven in the back. He might've shot Smith's wife, too, once in each leg. Didn't mean to, though, if that matters at all.


No agenda here
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 9:15 pm
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:34 pm to
I think the spin of him being a generally decent human being that made choices that in the moment felt reasonable but with distance were terrible isn't far fetched.

When was the last hardcore gang violence incident in Nola where the dude unloaded his gun, waited for police and asked bystanders to stay? "His" version of events is obviously way on the other end of the spectrum from the smith family- and surely the truth is somewhere in between.... I just get the feeling that the truth is closer to his (and that's not commentary on whether he will walk).
Posted by ScopeCreep
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:45 pm to
Hayes will not be convicted of second degree murder. They could possibly get him on a manslaughter charge but even that is questionable.
Posted by kbdos
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:50 pm to
Article is crap. Tipitinas is not even where it said
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

think the spin of him being a generally decent human being that made choices that in the moment felt reasonable but with distance were terrible isn't far fetched.


Except that isn't what this story spun. I don't think he was some terrible human being

He sat there, let Smith punch him 3x, and responded with "please don't do that". His friend and him were apparently dodging punches left and right

He also "might have" shot his wife in each leg. That's gonna be a tricky one to explain with the height disparity.

Then you have the fact that he rammed the back of Smith's car and got out with the gun in the first place. There are a lot of obstacles for the defendant in this one.

quote:

When was the last hardcore gang violence incident in Nola where the dude unloaded his gun


Where is it being portrayed this way?

I've discussed this enough on Saints Talk and with attorneys in the area. This article is a joke.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 9:57 pm
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:36 pm to
No matter what the article says, Hayes should've never gotten out of his vehicle with a gun in hand (especially considering the fact that he hit Smith from behind). Both parties are responsible for what happened, but Hayes getting out of his car with a gun in his hand sent the whole thing to another level.
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