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Ford Explorer owners say their cars poisoned them

Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:35 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:35 am
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Months after Ford acknowledged carbon monoxide leaks in police versions of Explorer SUVs, federal regulators are now looking at the potential of similar problems in civilian vehicles.

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NHTSA has more than 2,700 complaints about Explorer carbon monoxide leaks. In July, the agency upgraded its investigation to an "engineering analysis," which is one step short of a recall.

Carbon monoxide is colorless and odorless, but Explorer owners say they smell exhaust fumes, which contain the poisonous gas.

In technical service bulletins to dealers, Ford acknowledges an "exhaust odor" that may "smell like sulfur" and worsen when the climate control is on.

Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51235 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:36 am to
Found On Roadside Dead is supposed to refer to the vehicle, not the people inside the vehicle.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25310 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:38 am to
Our local PD just ditched their Fords for Chargers and Tahoes because of this.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15407 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:39 am to
My wife drives an Explorer. There is no denying that exhaust fumes find their way into the cabin. Happens mostly when you punch the gas, which is why my wife never noticed it.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:43 am to
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Found On Roadside Dead is supposed to refer to the vehicle, not the people inside the vehicle.



Maybe just found on road unconscious.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:49 am to
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My wife drives an Explorer.


Does it have truck nuts?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:07 am to
So it's a leak at the exhaust manifold or collector? Seems like an easy fix that some cheap company doesn't want to pay for
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:38 am to
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So it's a leak at the exhaust manifold or collector? Seems like an easy fix that some cheap company doesn't want to pay for


Police fleet managers say that the problem is a cracked exhaust manifold. Supposedly it is a very common problem with V6 Fords.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 9:41 am
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:40 am to
So Ford doesn't want to be stuck with the bill? I understand they might have to tilt the engine (don't know about the room under there), but damn, it's not that complicated
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:43 am to
quote:

So Ford doesn't want to be stuck with the bill?


They initially blamed it on police radios.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25310 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:20 am to
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So it's a leak at the exhaust manifold or collector? Seems like an easy fix that some cheap company doesn't want to pay for



It's been a known problem for over 3 years.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:34 am to
Carbon monoxide poising is acute and causes asphyxiation as it binds more readily to hemoglobin than oxygen. I know of no long-term effects from small amounts that do not cause you to lose consciousness.

Now, you could possibly argue that you are being exposed to particulate matter, NOx, and perhaps BTEX in the exhaust fumes.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:34 am to
Police radios have been putting out CO for years. The engines inside those radios are so inefficient
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:45 am to
Really fricking annoying as that's my wife's leisure vehicle and we have a 3 and 1 year old.

I understand it's not likely, but that doesn't mean it's not bullshite or a concern.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68262 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:23 am to
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Carbon monoxide poising is acute and causes asphyxiation as it binds more readily to hemoglobin than oxygen. I know of no long-term effects from small amounts that do not cause you to lose consciousness. 

Now, you could possibly argue that you are being exposed to particulate matter, NOx, and perhaps BTEX in the exhaust fumes.



Small amounts could affect your ability to operate a machine safely. CO causes drowsiness, headaches, etc even in small quanities
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 12:12 pm to
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Really fricking annoying as that's my wife's leisure vehicle and we have a 3 and 1 year old.


If you are concerned, I am sure a trusted, independent mechanic would be happy to check for an exhaust manifold leak.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28026 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 12:25 pm to
what u get for buying shitty ford vehicle
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76169 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 12:27 pm to
Oh no, I hope my Tundra is still safe
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
5682 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 12:33 pm to
If this gets big, current Explorers are going to be worth about as much as Explorers were when they were rolling over from blowouts.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 12:34 pm to
It would happen in my Wrangler when I had the bikini top on and idling.
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