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Families of Aurora, CO theater shooting victims suing the theater
Posted on 5/9/16 at 7:43 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 7:43 am
Pathetic. Something bad happens to a loved one and you want to get paid.
Cant sue the crazy shooter, he has no money. So lets go after the theater.
More lawsuits like this and going to a theater or sports stadium will have airport like security.
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Cant sue the crazy shooter, he has no money. So lets go after the theater.
More lawsuits like this and going to a theater or sports stadium will have airport like security.
LINK
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 7:44 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 7:45 am to Cosmo
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going to a theater or sports stadium will have airport like security.
Only if they throw out the talkers and the ones that are annoying.
One freak occurrence does not make something unsafe. And should not force theaters to hire armed guards (really!?) to avoid scum lawyers.
People need to realize that overwhelmingly, we are safe. So so so much safer than we were 100 years ago.
Not sure if we are better though. Seems pathetic that so many people live their lives scared of the bogeyman.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 7:53 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 7:46 am to Cosmo
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"Our belief," said Ken Citron, one of the lawyers for the victims, "is that Cinemark had inadequate security measures to guard against a foreseeable danger. And, had they implemented proper security measures, this act would have never happened and our clients would have never been injured."
Are they admitting that a "GUN FREE ZONE" sign on the door didn't work? Criminals broke the law? Whaaaaaa??
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 7:53 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 7:49 am to Cosmo
This is interesting. I wonder if the whole gun free zone thing gets tested with this.
I mean... I get why the families are mad but other than having armed guards, this isn't easily prevented even with concealed carry
I mean... I get why the families are mad but other than having armed guards, this isn't easily prevented even with concealed carry
Posted on 5/9/16 at 7:53 am to Cosmo
I don't see how the theater is at fault here. How often is it you walk into a movie theater and see armed police? Hardly ever. They are soft targets for a reason. Be that as it may, however, no one ever expects a crazed psychopath to come in and start shooting up the place. The families don't have ground to stand on IMO.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 7:54 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 7:54 am to gatorrocks
I've never been to a movie theater that would have had adequate security to stop this attack
Posted on 5/9/16 at 7:54 am to Cosmo
I won't be mad at the family if they win. It'll be the court's fault for awarding these types of lawsuits.
There's a reason people sue over stupid shite. It's because they win.
Something like this could have happened at any place of business.
There's a reason people sue over stupid shite. It's because they win.
Something like this could have happened at any place of business.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 7:56 am to Cosmo
This could set an interesting precedent. Would that mean that every business is required to protect customers against crazed gunmen while on their property?
Posted on 5/9/16 at 7:57 am to 632627
Agreed.
I believe the main effect of the Aurora shooting is that now the ushers check the emergency exit inside the theater a few times during the actual screening of the film. That is probably the only thing that could have prevented this; however, that may not even be good enough.
I believe the main effect of the Aurora shooting is that now the ushers check the emergency exit inside the theater a few times during the actual screening of the film. That is probably the only thing that could have prevented this; however, that may not even be good enough.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 7:59 am to Cosmo
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Instead, the testimony is expected to focus on the days and months prior to the shooting, when killer James Holmes carefully cased the theater and when Citron and other plaintiffs' lawyers contend Cinemark's corporate headquarters received broad warning from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security that movie theaters might be targeted by terrorists.
Cinemark never shared that warning with its theater managers, the victims' lawyers say. On the night of the shooting, the Century Aurora 16 theater had no extra security on hand, no surveillance-camera coverage for large areas behind the theater where Holmes prepared, and no alarm on the exit door through which he entered and began shooting.
That's at least a better argument than I was expecting. A little background, this suit was filed in September 2012.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:00 am to Cosmo
I have experienced almost being sued in a tragic situation that I didn't cause at all. All I did was help, and I saved someone's life. IMHO, it is people's way of getting "retribution" and closure I guess. It isn't about the money sometimes. They are just looking for anyone to be punished by their doing.
In this situation, people are gonna bitch about and be scared of Barney Fife security guard walking around with a gun and having zero training. Then, they are just gonna end up suing when Barney ends up shooting someone. The judge in this case is a major douche and just wants publicity
In this situation, people are gonna bitch about and be scared of Barney Fife security guard walking around with a gun and having zero training. Then, they are just gonna end up suing when Barney ends up shooting someone. The judge in this case is a major douche and just wants publicity
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 8:08 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:02 am to Hammertime
These families got their punishment.
The dude is rotting in prison for life.
Now they want to get paid.
The dude is rotting in prison for life.
Now they want to get paid.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:05 am to Cosmo
The theatre was a gun free zone so I say screw them. I hope they all win big.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:05 am to Cosmo
Didn't he buy a ticket, enter the theater without guns, go through an exit and prop the door and then go to his car for the guns?
Security could not have stopped that unless they were guarding the door.
Security could not have stopped that unless they were guarding the door.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:08 am to Cosmo
So let's say all theatres have an armed guard from now on. How does that prevent this?
This guy was armed to the teeth and would have dispatched a rent a cop with the quickness.
This guy was armed to the teeth and would have dispatched a rent a cop with the quickness.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:14 am to LSUwag
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The theatre was a gun free zone so I say screw them. I hope they
Yep, the theater prohibited an individual's right to protection with the gun free zone, therefore they are responsible for everyone's safety
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:17 am to fr33manator
People need to understand that the person ultimately most responsible for their own safety is themselves.
If one of the victims was a concealed carry practicer and was actually disallowed through a confrontation from carrying his firearm into the movie before the attack, then maybe I could see a case being brought against the theater.
If one of the victims was a concealed carry practicer and was actually disallowed through a confrontation from carrying his firearm into the movie before the attack, then maybe I could see a case being brought against the theater.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 8:19 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:18 am to FleurDeLonestar
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So let's say all theatres have an armed guard from now on. How does that prevent this?
I think the bigger question is, how many armed guards must be hired to keep an eye on 16 or more theaters with multiple exit points.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:22 am to wickowick
I am disgusted by our overly litigious society.
However, those saying they have no case are wrong after reading the details. The corporate headquarters not alerting the theaters that they could be targets of attacks (terrorist or not) does not bode well for them.
Also, if they just had 1 security guard (talking to people in the security booth watching rear cameras) in the back of the theater preventing someone from propping doors open so they could re-enter from the back exit, this could have been a totally different story.
As teenagers we used to let friends in from the back door in theaters and they caught on and put a security guard in the back. Those doors cannot be opened from the outside.
It is NOT the theaters fault and I think this lawsuit is in poor taste. However, they do have a decent shot at winning a lot of money.
However, those saying they have no case are wrong after reading the details. The corporate headquarters not alerting the theaters that they could be targets of attacks (terrorist or not) does not bode well for them.
Also, if they just had 1 security guard (talking to people in the security booth watching rear cameras) in the back of the theater preventing someone from propping doors open so they could re-enter from the back exit, this could have been a totally different story.
As teenagers we used to let friends in from the back door in theaters and they caught on and put a security guard in the back. Those doors cannot be opened from the outside.
It is NOT the theaters fault and I think this lawsuit is in poor taste. However, they do have a decent shot at winning a lot of money.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 8:23 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:28 am to Scooba
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Are they admitting that a "GUN FREE ZONE" sign on the door didn't work?
Plus...how is a theater shooting a foreseeable risk? Now? Maybe, because there have been others. However, this was the first.
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