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Posted on 4/26/15 at 6:28 am to armytiger16
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You're right, JTAC (I think they are called PJs now?) are awesome in my book.
damn dude not even close
JTAC's are TACP's who specialize in calling in CAS
CCT- some are JTACS but they are Air traffic controller who specialize in taking airfields
PJ's are special operations medics who deploy as a team or get attached to other special operations from other branches
Special Operations weather who the frick knows
Posted on 4/26/15 at 6:46 am to rebeloke
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You guys lack the legal acumen to understand the subtlety of the difference between a current uniform and one that is no longer in use.
A month ago, I never heard of this word. Started studying for the GRE and came across this word while making flash cards. Now it seems this word is getting flung around at every possible opportunity.
Weird.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 7:06 am to StraightCashHomey21
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special operations weather who the frick knows
Right?!?!?!? Da frick is it?!?!?
Posted on 4/26/15 at 7:14 am to StraightCashHomey21
I'm thankful for the PJ who was attached to us, even though he was a little pudgy he did all the nasty work. The JTAC was awesome as well, man could he communicate effectively with the air.
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 7:16 am
Posted on 4/26/15 at 7:25 am to Signal Soldier
Every vet that shoots these videos have buddies that died wearing the uniform, sorry but I highly doubt that. I cringe at every word that comes out of the E3's mouth, it's not a service member or vet's job to harass a person for stolen valor, say what's on your mind without videotaping it and move out. Half of the stolen valor individuals are mentally ill anyways.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 7:44 am to uptowntiger84
Good thread, Tosh had a SV video where the interviewer asked "what was your rank?!" The guy answered "...uh, sniper".
Posted on 4/26/15 at 7:47 am to StraightCashHomey21
TACPs! I worked with a couple who were with my unit and they were cool guys. Especially when they would let me borrow their gator. Don't have a clue where I got PJs from.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 8:02 am to rebeloke
What type Desk do you fly, Goose?
Posted on 4/26/15 at 8:29 am to jbgleason
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You Sir are guilty of impersonating a member of JAG but I got news for you, it isn't a crime. No matter what legal-sounding words you use or the length and number of your posts, it doesn't change the fact that simply wearing the uniform is NOT a crime. I do love that you use the National Security argument though. Hell, maybe we should argue it is for the children too. And stop mentioning dressing up like a police officer. If that was the case, they should lock up Kip Holden and half the sorority girls from LSU every Halloween. It is not how you dress or what you say, it is HOW you do it. I can wear a military uniform all day long. It is when I try to get a free meal or gain access to a secure area on base using that uniform that the action becomes illegal. Note the subtlety there, it's not the uniform but the action (how it is used) that is illegal. Despite what some folks think, the USA is still basically a free country.
If you are so sure of your point, log into WesLaw and find me a single cite of a case where someone has been successfully prosecuted for the simple wearing of a military uniform with no other action gaining benefit. There should be plenty given the number of videos online.
but...but 10 usc 771 and 772
You nailed it BTW. 10 usc 771 and 772 is basically an outdated law that's still on the books and is not really enforced because of the constitutional issues that it may cause which is why the Stolen Valor act of 2005 came to exist. When that was challenged it was again revised and the Stolen Valor act of 2013 came to exist.
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 8:31 am
Posted on 4/26/15 at 8:51 am to ElderTiger
I think he's suggesting that there are those SM who wear tabs/medals not earned. Also, I know of NCO's/O's who never deployed.
After 13+ years of war, how the hell do you miss every deployment...?
After 13+ years of war, how the hell do you miss every deployment...?
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:06 am to stout
the newest (2014 and page 19) guidance on the purchasing official uniforms quotes 10 usc 771
look on page 16 (the law is still valid)
I can assure you those laws are still enforceable. What is so hard to understand here? On the one hand you have people claiming benefits that don't deserve them and on the other you have impersonating a federal official. I quoted 18 USC 1730 also. It is illegal to impersonate a postman as well. Read the Stolen Valor 2013. It makes it illegal to get discounts for claiming military service. It does not make it legal to impersonate a military member in current uniforms. It does not nullify 10 USC 771/2. You are such a dipshite!
look on page 16 (the law is still valid)
I can assure you those laws are still enforceable. What is so hard to understand here? On the one hand you have people claiming benefits that don't deserve them and on the other you have impersonating a federal official. I quoted 18 USC 1730 also. It is illegal to impersonate a postman as well. Read the Stolen Valor 2013. It makes it illegal to get discounts for claiming military service. It does not make it legal to impersonate a military member in current uniforms. It does not nullify 10 USC 771/2. You are such a dipshite!
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 9:24 am
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:23 am to GenesChin
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Why would someone even do that?
This, I just don't understand why anyone would try to convince people they are in the service when they aren't???
Is there some kind of obvious discount that I don't know about that these people are cashing in on?
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:25 am to Sao
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Sao
Holy shite, the effort you put in is praiseworthy.
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 9:26 am
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:30 am to rebeloke
I will say it again, cite a single case of someone being prosecuted for wearing of a uniform.
BTW, call the FBI on this guy and cite your statutes.
Or this felon police impersonator.
BTW, call the FBI on this guy and cite your statutes.
Or this felon police impersonator.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:34 am to rebeloke
Dude, I am not the only one in this thread pointing out to you that 10 usc 771 and 772 is not really enforced because of the constitutional issues that may arise from it. You just simply choose to ignore it.
Can you link to any recent cases where 10 usc 771 and 772 has been successfully prosecuted?
Ahh...nice personal attack. Good job.
There are several laws that are still on the books that aren't enforceable and aren't actively prosecuted.
In Mississippi adultery or fornication (living together while not married or having sex with someone that is not your spouse) results in a fine of $500 and/or 6 months in prison.
LINK
Good luck getting a DA to prosecute it just like never hear of anyone actually prosecuted for 10 usc 771 and 772
Can you link to any recent cases where 10 usc 771 and 772 has been successfully prosecuted?
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You are such a dipshite!
Ahh...nice personal attack. Good job.
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look on page 16 (the law is still valid)
I can assure you those laws are still enforceable.
There are several laws that are still on the books that aren't enforceable and aren't actively prosecuted.
In Mississippi adultery or fornication (living together while not married or having sex with someone that is not your spouse) results in a fine of $500 and/or 6 months in prison.
LINK
Good luck getting a DA to prosecute it just like never hear of anyone actually prosecuted for 10 usc 771 and 772
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 9:38 am
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:36 am to jbgleason
I think it's the "to obtain tangible benefit" part that rebeloke struggles with. And unconstitutional and unenforceable laws are routinely left on the books.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:41 am to stout
I recall some dude got busted going thru Miami Intl in full uni. Dont remember if this law was cited at the time. It was an alert sent to all when I was still on active duty.
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