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re: Fake Green Beret Special Forces Marine Corporal Busted In New Orleans

Posted on 4/26/15 at 6:23 am to
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 6:23 am to
I saw a guy wearing a Tom Brady jersey, it wasn't him.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125393 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 6:28 am to
quote:

You're right, JTAC (I think they are called PJs now?) are awesome in my book.


damn dude not even close

JTAC's are TACP's who specialize in calling in CAS

CCT- some are JTACS but they are Air traffic controller who specialize in taking airfields

PJ's are special operations medics who deploy as a team or get attached to other special operations from other branches

Special Operations weather who the frick knows
Posted by Delirium
Member since Dec 2008
2415 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 6:46 am to
quote:

You guys lack the legal acumen to understand the subtlety of the difference between a current uniform and one that is no longer in use.


A month ago, I never heard of this word. Started studying for the GRE and came across this word while making flash cards. Now it seems this word is getting flung around at every possible opportunity.

Weird.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66377 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 6:58 am to
OWNED
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17206 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 7:06 am to
quote:

special operations weather who the frick knows


Right?!?!?!? Da frick is it?!?!?
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 7:14 am to
I'm thankful for the PJ who was attached to us, even though he was a little pudgy he did all the nasty work. The JTAC was awesome as well, man could he communicate effectively with the air.
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 7:16 am
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 7:25 am to
Every vet that shoots these videos have buddies that died wearing the uniform, sorry but I highly doubt that. I cringe at every word that comes out of the E3's mouth, it's not a service member or vet's job to harass a person for stolen valor, say what's on your mind without videotaping it and move out. Half of the stolen valor individuals are mentally ill anyways.
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
3882 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 7:38 am to
Wow!
Posted by Sandy_Ash
Member since Feb 2015
1162 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 7:44 am to
Good thread, Tosh had a SV video where the interviewer asked "what was your rank?!" The guy answered "...uh, sniper".
Posted by armytiger16
Member since Oct 2010
563 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 7:47 am to
TACPs! I worked with a couple who were with my unit and they were cool guys. Especially when they would let me borrow their gator. Don't have a clue where I got PJs from.
Posted by Eugene Dogwood
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
641 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 8:02 am to
What type Desk do you fly, Goose?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167099 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 8:29 am to
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You Sir are guilty of impersonating a member of JAG but I got news for you, it isn't a crime. No matter what legal-sounding words you use or the length and number of your posts, it doesn't change the fact that simply wearing the uniform is NOT a crime. I do love that you use the National Security argument though. Hell, maybe we should argue it is for the children too. And stop mentioning dressing up like a police officer. If that was the case, they should lock up Kip Holden and half the sorority girls from LSU every Halloween. It is not how you dress or what you say, it is HOW you do it. I can wear a military uniform all day long. It is when I try to get a free meal or gain access to a secure area on base using that uniform that the action becomes illegal. Note the subtlety there, it's not the uniform but the action (how it is used) that is illegal. Despite what some folks think, the USA is still basically a free country.

If you are so sure of your point, log into WesLaw and find me a single cite of a case where someone has been successfully prosecuted for the simple wearing of a military uniform with no other action gaining benefit. There should be plenty given the number of videos online.



but...but 10 usc 771 and 772


You nailed it BTW. 10 usc 771 and 772 is basically an outdated law that's still on the books and is not really enforced because of the constitutional issues that it may cause which is why the Stolen Valor act of 2005 came to exist. When that was challenged it was again revised and the Stolen Valor act of 2013 came to exist.


This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 8:31 am
Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
8990 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 8:51 am to
I think he's suggesting that there are those SM who wear tabs/medals not earned. Also, I know of NCO's/O's who never deployed.

After 13+ years of war, how the hell do you miss every deployment...?

Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16065 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:06 am to
the newest (2014 and page 19) guidance on the purchasing official uniforms quotes 10 usc 771

look on page 16 (the law is still valid)

I can assure you those laws are still enforceable. What is so hard to understand here? On the one hand you have people claiming benefits that don't deserve them and on the other you have impersonating a federal official. I quoted 18 USC 1730 also. It is illegal to impersonate a postman as well. Read the Stolen Valor 2013. It makes it illegal to get discounts for claiming military service. It does not make it legal to impersonate a military member in current uniforms. It does not nullify 10 USC 771/2. You are such a dipshite!
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 9:24 am
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8958 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Why would someone even do that?



This, I just don't understand why anyone would try to convince people they are in the service when they aren't???

Is there some kind of obvious discount that I don't know about that these people are cashing in on?

Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Sao



Holy shite, the effort you put in is praiseworthy.
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 9:26 am
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18894 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:30 am to
I will say it again, cite a single case of someone being prosecuted for wearing of a uniform.

BTW, call the FBI on this guy and cite your statutes.



Or this felon police impersonator.

Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167099 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:34 am to
Dude, I am not the only one in this thread pointing out to you that 10 usc 771 and 772 is not really enforced because of the constitutional issues that may arise from it. You just simply choose to ignore it.

Can you link to any recent cases where 10 usc 771 and 772 has been successfully prosecuted?

quote:

You are such a dipshite!


Ahh...nice personal attack. Good job.

quote:

look on page 16 (the law is still valid)

I can assure you those laws are still enforceable.


There are several laws that are still on the books that aren't enforceable and aren't actively prosecuted.

In Mississippi adultery or fornication (living together while not married or having sex with someone that is not your spouse) results in a fine of $500 and/or 6 months in prison.

LINK

Good luck getting a DA to prosecute it just like never hear of anyone actually prosecuted for 10 usc 771 and 772
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 9:38 am
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76173 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:36 am to
I think it's the "to obtain tangible benefit" part that rebeloke struggles with. And unconstitutional and unenforceable laws are routinely left on the books.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32840 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:41 am to
I recall some dude got busted going thru Miami Intl in full uni. Dont remember if this law was cited at the time. It was an alert sent to all when I was still on active duty.
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