- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
FAA introduces new regulations on drones
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:39 pm
quote:
Today, the Department of Transportation’s Federal Aviation Administration has finalized the first operational rules (PDF) for routine commercial use of small unmanned aircraft systems (UAS or “drones”), opening pathways towards fully integrating UAS into the nation’s airspace.
LINK
Good first step, doesn't place any restrictions on what can be done with a drone and allows for drone deliveries to occur soon.
4
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:40 pm to JamalSanders
quote:
Good first step
these aren't the first steps, these are the "final" steps...
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:44 pm to JamalSanders
quote:
Good first step
Government regulations are never a good step.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:46 pm to PatDyesPants
When dumbasses with drones are endangering commercial airlines, they are...
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:48 pm to Displaced
quote:
When dumbasses with drones are endangering commercial airlines, they are...
these rules, will have ZERO affect on idiots
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:48 pm to JamalSanders
so you dont need a full pilot license anymore to fly commercially? that's pretty huge
quote:
How do I become a certified drone pilot?
Under Part 107, which the FAA announced on June 21st, 2016 and will implement in late-August 2016, commercial drone operators would be required to:
Pass an initial aeronautical knowledge test at one of 696 FAA-approved knowledge testing centers across the United States (this list last updated December 2015). That’s what our Part 107 training course prepares you for.
Be vetted by the Transportation Security Administration.
Obtain a Remote Pilot Certificate with a small UAS rating (like existing pilot airman certificates, never expires).
Pass a recurrent aeronautical knowledge test every 24 months.
Be at least 16 years old.
Make available to the FAA, upon request, the small UAS for inspection or testing, and any associated documents/records required to be kept under the proposed rule.
Report an accident to the FAA within 10 days of any operation that results in injury or property damage over $500.
Conduct a preflight inspection, to include specific aircraft and control station systems checks, to ensure the small UAS is safe for operation.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:49 pm to CE Tiger
quote:
so you dont need a full pilot license anymore to fly commercially? that's pretty huge
You never did..That was a request from the FAA, and there were never any cases of it being enforced
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:51 pm to RecordSetter
quote:
there were never any cases of it being enforced
we just went through hiring UAS for some business purposes and the controller is a pilot and from what I heard it was needed to get the permit and waivers to fly
quote:
Here’s how the FAA describes what the 333 exemption is:
By law, any aircraft operation in the national airspace requires a certificated and registered aircraft, a licensed pilot, and operational approval. Section 333 of the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012 (FMRA) (PDF) grants the Secretary of Transportation the authority to determine whether an airworthiness certificate is required for a UAS to operate safely in the National Airspace System (NAS).
This authority is being leveraged to grant case-by-case authorization for certain unmanned aircraft to perform commercial operations prior to the finalization of the Small UAS Rule, which will be the primary method for authorizing small UAS operations once it is complete.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:54 pm to CE Tiger
quote:
we just went through hiring UAS for some business purposes and the controller is a pilot and from what I heard it was needed to get the permit and waivers to fly
I fly them at our company, along with 12 others, worldwide..We are listed under a pilot, but that was only to cover our asses...As I said, there were 0 enforced cases since that "requirement" went into affect...We also fly under waivers, and it looks like those will keep us from having to go through the new hoops...
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:56 pm to RecordSetter
yea we had to deal with the waivers as well but everything ive read says it needed to be a licensed pilot
quote:
Do I need to have a (manned aircraft) pilot license?
We get asked this one a lot!
Under a traditional Section 333 Exemption, yes.
Under Part 107, no.
Let’s dive into this a bit.
The company (or individual running the company) that holds a Section 333 Exemption does not need to be a licensed pilot, but the person actually flying the drone/UAV must be. This is called the “pilot-in-command.”
The licensed pilot can be either a company employee or independent contractor, as long as he or she satisfies the qualifications articulated in the Section 333 Exemption guidelines.
So what does being a licensed pilot mean?
It means you either have, at minimum, a sport or recreational pilot license. You do not need to have a private pilot’s license, but if you already do, that satisfies the requirement. You could also have an airline transport or commercial license, but for most of you that doesn’t apply unless you already have a career in aviation.
Here’s what the FAA says on their website:
Under this grant of exemption, a PIC must hold either an airline transport, commercial, private, recreational, or sport pilot certificate. The PIC must also hold a current FAA airman medical certificate or a valid U.S. driver’s license issued by a state, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, a territory, a possession, or the Federal government. The PIC must also meet the flight review requirements specified in 14 CFR § 61.56 in an aircraft in which the PIC is rated on his or her pilot certificate.
Under Part 107, a pilot license will NOT be required.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:58 pm to CE Tiger
quote:
everything ive read says it needed to be a licensed pilot
again, these were always suggestions....If they were "laws", they could not simply just redact them today...
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:10 pm to PatDyesPants
quote:
Government regulations are never a good step.
Anything dealing with airspace needs to be regulated. I fly drones weekly at work and there needs to be something to keep all of the dumbasses that think they can be an aerial photographer with a drone from fricking something up.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:12 pm to RecordSetter
quote:Not so fast, my friend...
these rules, will have ZERO affect on idiots
To qualify for a remote pilot certificate, a person must:
o Demonstrate aeronautical knowledge by either:
? Passing an initial aeronautical knowledge test at
an FAA-approved knowledge testing center; or
? Hold a part 61 pilot certificate other than student
pilot, complete a flight review within the previous
24 months, and complete a small UAS online
training course provided by the FAA.
o Be vetted by the Transportation Security Administration.
o Be at least 16 years old.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:13 pm to RecordSetter
quote:
RecordSetter
Does your company require a second class medical certificate?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:13 pm to JamalSanders
Waste of time. Three of mine are registered. O(same Faa number) but legally I'm supposed to call MSY and ask for permission from the tower before flying. I don't and just keep below 150' and on my property.
I built a couple of racers and never got around to flying them anywhere.
really keep below 20' and just fly around bushes and trees in my backyard.
The people who do it professionally kudos to you. Must be fun. I just got a pair of fatsharks so I'm still super new to FPV, but got really good at line of sight.
I built a couple of racers and never got around to flying them anywhere.
really keep below 20' and just fly around bushes and trees in my backyard.
The people who do it professionally kudos to you. Must be fun. I just got a pair of fatsharks so I'm still super new to FPV, but got really good at line of sight.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:13 pm to tigerpawl
quote:
To qualify for a remote pilot certificate, a person must:
if you think people will line up to pay $150 to fly their drones, you're mistaken...
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:14 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Does your company require a second class medical certificate?
they only require a sports license, which I believe covers that requirement...like I said, we were covered under his license and not required to get our own...
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:20 pm to tigerpawl
I think the 333 will no longer be required. I did call the FAA this morning and the guy I spoke to wasn't sure, but the language in the "Final Rule" make it pretty clear that if you haven't already petitioned for a 333, it only makes sense to operate under Part 107 and forego the 333. It states as follows:
The FAA clarifies that current section 333 exemptions that apply to small UAS are excluded from part 107. The FAA has already considered each of these individual operations when it considered their section 333 exemption requests and concluded that these operations do not pose a safety or national security risk. The FAA recognizes, however, that there may be certain instances where part 107 is less restrictive than a section 333 exemption. Therefore, under this rule, a section 333 exemption holder may choose to operate in accordance with part 107 **instead of** operating under the section 333 exemption. This approach will provide section 333 exemption holders time to obtain a remote pilot certificate and transition to part 107. Operations that would not otherwise fall under part 107 may not take advantage of this option. For example, an operation with a section 333 exemption that does not fall under part 107, such as an operation of a UAS weighing more than 55 pounds, would not have the option of operating in accordance with part 107 rather than with its section 333 exemption. Additionally, when section 333 exemptions come up for renewal, the FAA will consider whether renewal is necessary for those exemptions whose operations are within the operational scope of part 107, which also includes those operations that qualify for a waiver under part 107. The purpose of part 107 is to continue the FAA’s process of integrating UAS into the NAS. If a section 333 exemption is within the operational scope of part 107, there may be no need for the agency to renew an exemption under section 333.
The FAA clarifies that current section 333 exemptions that apply to small UAS are excluded from part 107. The FAA has already considered each of these individual operations when it considered their section 333 exemption requests and concluded that these operations do not pose a safety or national security risk. The FAA recognizes, however, that there may be certain instances where part 107 is less restrictive than a section 333 exemption. Therefore, under this rule, a section 333 exemption holder may choose to operate in accordance with part 107 **instead of** operating under the section 333 exemption. This approach will provide section 333 exemption holders time to obtain a remote pilot certificate and transition to part 107. Operations that would not otherwise fall under part 107 may not take advantage of this option. For example, an operation with a section 333 exemption that does not fall under part 107, such as an operation of a UAS weighing more than 55 pounds, would not have the option of operating in accordance with part 107 rather than with its section 333 exemption. Additionally, when section 333 exemptions come up for renewal, the FAA will consider whether renewal is necessary for those exemptions whose operations are within the operational scope of part 107, which also includes those operations that qualify for a waiver under part 107. The purpose of part 107 is to continue the FAA’s process of integrating UAS into the NAS. If a section 333 exemption is within the operational scope of part 107, there may be no need for the agency to renew an exemption under section 333.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:21 pm to tigerpawl
quote:
tigerpawl
pretty straightforward
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:23 pm to Displaced
quote:
When dumbasses with drones are endangering commercial airlines, they are.
Same as when folks have guns that shouldn't?!
Page 1 of 2
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News