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re: Exxon Mobil’s Q2 income falls 52%

Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:38 pm to
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Good grief.


Energy companies are one of the largest employers to economists. To say that energy companies don't budget based on commodity prices is just plain ignorant.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28009 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:41 pm to
You know I was agreeing w/ you, right?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98083 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:44 pm to
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What has a bigger impact on society?

Paying $4/gal for gas in lieu of $2.50/gal?

OR

150,000 people out of work?


If it costs every man, woman and child in the country an extra $1.50 a gallon to keep those 150,000 people employed, it's bad economics. I'm not gloating, it sucks to be worried about your future waiting for the axe to fall. But y'all are looking at this through parochial glasses;being on the Gulf Coast, that's completely understandable. All you see is layoffs and for sale signs, and it doesn't seem possible that anyone could be benefitting. But in the rest of the country, consumers have more money in their pockets every week, and businesses have significantly lower production and transportation costs. It's a huge net benefit to the US economy, Houston's plight notwithstanding.
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:44 pm to
frick them
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13940 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:44 pm to
No, didn't

One only has to read the news to see the slashes in capital expenditures from these companies to know that was a dumb statement.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30249 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:50 pm to
You obviously missed "to an extent" in my statement.

Sure. If an E&P has three projects on the table and oil crashes, they'll probably scrap one or two.

I never said they don't budget based on commodities.

Once again...it takes years to develop deep water fields and that is where the big E&Ps are.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28009 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:54 pm to
NP.

I was laughing at your Conan face.


I think the point he was trying to make was that oil companies need to drill/produce to ensure their long-term survival. Even in a down market, they will still invest and spend on capital projects.

To say that the level of capital expenditure is not affected or tied to current day selling price, especially when the selling price has dropped dramatically, is pretty crazy.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28009 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

"to an extent"


Yeah, I did.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30249 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:00 pm to
And when the price drops like it has, they lay off, scale back production, shelf some planned drills, and continue plugging and abandoning old wells. Oh and they put the squeeze on service company prices. A big chunk of the billions spent each year is on future projects.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30249 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:02 pm to
I love how the OT hasn't changed. Posters are still eager to be a hard arse even when they don't know what the frick they're talking about.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28009 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:03 pm to
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Oh and they put the squeeze on service company prices


Yep, even us IT guys feel it.


As an aside, IDK about you guys, but it's pretty hard for me to post on the OT, do my job, and order stuff for my boat from Amazon.

I feel like my posting is starting to suffer a bit.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30249 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:03 pm to
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continue plugging and abandoning old wells

Which by the way is very costly. They can't just decide not to do it either since the government is making them.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28084 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:09 pm to
The windfall for consumers is moderate at best, and consumer spending metrics have yet to show any meaningful improvement, relative to other recoveries.

The US shale boom was the single most positive influence in the economy in bringing us out the recession, and gas prices were never prohibitively high during the last 5 or so years anyway. It remains unclear as to what extent this will help or hurt us on aggregate.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 3:12 pm
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28009 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:10 pm to
Hey, that's swell Lou.

That Thesaurus is really working out for you, huh?
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80744 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:02 pm to
I don't think people understand the cyclical nature of the oil commodity and how far away we are from anything making a dent in the world's demand of it.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13940 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 7:53 pm to
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You obviously missed "to an extent" in my statement.


You are 100% incorrect to any extent. Energy companies are constantly monitoring economic conditions. It takes $1 billion just to drill an exploratory well in deep water. If you think energy companies aren't scrutinizing economics before doing anything, you are sadly mistaken.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167034 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 8:34 pm to
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That Thesaurus is really working out for you, huh?




Lou Pai is Jersey Tiger BTW

Glad to see he's back but not sure why his old account was deleted. That rarely happens.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55940 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 8:44 pm to
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Exxon Mobil’s Q2 income falls 52% by RedRifle


excellent....good time to buy some more of their stock...
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13940 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 8:48 pm to
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quote: Exxon Mobil’s Q2 income falls 52% by RedRifle excellent....good time to buy some more of their stock...


Yes, contrary to the thoughts of the crowd that hates energy companies, XOM and others will slash capital expenditures to keeps dividends up.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7540 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 8:48 pm to
It wasn't that long ago there were "all time record profits" so you take the highs with the lows.

Exxon isn't hurting and don't believe anything less.

They'll cap wells to secure leases, delay work overs on wells that aren't profitable and trim the fat like every other business does when the market softens.

Actually some of the highest profit margins can be realized when companies shrink overhead and reduce costs.

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