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Dr.'s requesting drug test before writing pain prescription
Posted on 9/2/16 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 9/2/16 at 4:56 pm
Friend's 65 year old mother has been taking tramadol for years. Dr. wouldn't refill unless she took a drug test. Is this something new?
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 4:57 pm to chinhoyang
She in Florida? If so yes
Posted on 9/2/16 at 4:57 pm to chinhoyang
It's nothing new for a doctor to cover his/her arse.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 4:58 pm to chinhoyang
He wanted to see what was in her system. Make sure she wasn't doctor hopping.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 4:58 pm to chinhoyang
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Friend's 65 year old mother has been taking tramadol for years. Dr. wouldn't refill unless she took a drug test. Is this something new?
Nope. Wants to make sure she is taking it and it isn't hitting the street
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:00 pm to HogBalls
Several of the doctors in the clinic don't have DEA numbers, so I figure it is covering his butt.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:00 pm to HogBalls
Don't need s test for this, can simply check the pharmacy registrars...
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:00 pm to PrivatePublic
I think it's in response to new DEA regs. Supposedly they are thinking about mandating patients medical records be open to investigation so they can determine if the patient is abusing opioids or not.
fricked up if you ask me.
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fricked up if you ask me.
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Marlon Jones was arrested for taking legal painkillers, prescribed to him by a doctor, after a double knee replacement.
Jones, an assistant fire chief of Utah’s Unified Fire Authority, was snared in a dragnet pulled through the state’s program to monitor prescription drugs after someone stole morphine from an ambulance in 2012. To find the missing morphine, cops used their unrestricted access to the state’s Prescription Drug Monitor Program database to look at the private medical records of nearly 500 emergency services personnel—without a warrant.
Jones was arrested along with another firefighter and a paramedic on suspicion of prescription fraud.
“I got a call at work from the police chief, who I know and work with,” Jones testified before a state senate committee last year. “He said ‘We think you have a problem, you’re taking too many medications. We need to make sure you’re no longer a threat to the community or yourself. So we’re doing this to help you.’”
Jones described in tearful detail what happened next.
“There were three police officers pounding on the door. They said they had a warrant for my arrest and they were going to take me in,” he said. “It was the middle of the day, on my front doorstep, in front of my wife and daughter. I’m handcuffed and stuffed into a police car and they haul me to jail.”
Jones was hit with 14 felony counts but all of them were later dropped.
Now the Drug Enforcement Administration wants that same kind of power, starting with access to an Oregon database containing the private medical data of more than a million people.
The DEA has claimed for years that under federal law it has the authority to access the state’s Prescription Drug Monitor Program database using only an “administrative subpoena.” These are unilaterally issued orders that do not require a showing of probable cause before a court, like what’s required to obtain a warrant.
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:04 pm to chinhoyang
They drug test to make sure she's taking them and not selling.
Also, all scripts are going to start being sent in electronically. No more paper scripts. No more having to call them in.
Also, all scripts are going to start being sent in electronically. No more paper scripts. No more having to call them in.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:07 pm to chinhoyang
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Several of the doctors in the clinic don't have DEA numbers, so I figure it is covering his butt.
Doctors cant prescribe controlled substances without a DEA but the DEA can be either institutional or individual.
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:07 pm to NYNolaguy1
If you have nothing to hide, what would be the problem?
They are just trying to help.
They are just trying to help.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:08 pm to chinhoyang
Old people selling their pain meds for cash is certainly not new. Active enforcement of laws addressing the abuse of prescription drugs is kind of new.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:12 pm to chinhoyang
Is tramadol even a narcotic? Real pain pills I could understand but not tramadol.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:13 pm to motionmagic
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If you have nothing to hide, what would be the problem?
It's the doctors job to give medication, not the DEA's. The above story is a great example of people that "have nothing to hide" and were still thrown in jail on flimsy charges.
If he had the privacy he deserved this wouldn't have happened.
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They are just trying to help.
Everyone could use a helping hand into the nearest prison.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:14 pm to gizmothepug
Tramadol is now scheduled drug. Many states require drug testing if prescribed for extended period of time. This is the new regulations.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:18 pm to chinhoyang
Tranadol lol? That's trash anyway, not recreational potential
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:24 pm to gizmothepug
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Is tramadol even a narcotic? Real pain pills I could understand but not tramadol.
It's an opioid and can be addictive.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:27 pm to gizmothepug
Pound of prevention, worth an ounce of cure.
It is getting ridiculous. Crackdowns on average people is assinine. Opening up all records is ridiculous. Just needed to allow docs the ability to pull a patient scrip record. And needed a national database. Some regulation was needed, but making Vicodin a schedule 2 was overkill.
Give docs the tools they need to combat ER abuse and Doctor shopping. Then watch the docs. Real pill mills are pretty easy to spot. Shut those down, but regular people needing chronic pain meds and who do so responsibly???
In addition as an ER nurse I feel like an arse handing a kidney stone patient a scrip for tramadol or Tylenol #3. Or a REAL dental abscess (I mean obvious swelling). Or fractures.
Speaking of fractures. The government passed new core measures for pain management of long bone fractures. Those people are to be STONED within 30 mins and are to remain that way. On discharge after surgery? Here's your tramadol. Lol
It is getting ridiculous. Crackdowns on average people is assinine. Opening up all records is ridiculous. Just needed to allow docs the ability to pull a patient scrip record. And needed a national database. Some regulation was needed, but making Vicodin a schedule 2 was overkill.
Give docs the tools they need to combat ER abuse and Doctor shopping. Then watch the docs. Real pill mills are pretty easy to spot. Shut those down, but regular people needing chronic pain meds and who do so responsibly???
In addition as an ER nurse I feel like an arse handing a kidney stone patient a scrip for tramadol or Tylenol #3. Or a REAL dental abscess (I mean obvious swelling). Or fractures.
Speaking of fractures. The government passed new core measures for pain management of long bone fractures. Those people are to be STONED within 30 mins and are to remain that way. On discharge after surgery? Here's your tramadol. Lol
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:32 pm to chinhoyang
this is 100 percent the norm these days.
Plus, some interactions will kill you with the stronger stuff, so they have to insure you aren't on other stuff.
Plus, some interactions will kill you with the stronger stuff, so they have to insure you aren't on other stuff.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 5:37 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Marlon Jones was arrested for taking legal painkillers, prescribed to him by a doctor, after a double knee replacement
This is outrageous and a terrible miscarriage of justice.
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