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Does gravity have an infinite range?

Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:26 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:26 pm
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I frickin HATE how Reddit is formatted, but I stumbled across this gem of a thread an hour or two ago (can't even recall how at this point) and my mind is melted. Tons of crazy concepts discussed, from the idea that the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light in a way, to the concept of a "centerless" universe, to gravitational waves, the location of the Big Bang or lack thereof, and other crap.

Extremely interesting reading though if you are into that.
Posted by Gladiator
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:28 pm to
idk...what does the bible say?
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:30 pm to
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Does gravity have an infinite range


yes, like a fart stops smelling as it dissipates, butt traces of my methane are still in your nose, just to low of a concentration for you to know
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:31 pm to
Why not?
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:35 pm to
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Does gravity have an infinite range?


I would assume so, but I've got absolutely no background on the subject so in the true OT-spirit I'm prepared to argue tirelessly with anyone on this board that has a dissenting opinion.

On a similar note, I often watch the MinutePhysics and MinuteEarth videos on Youtube to pass the time while bored. I enjoy learning what I can, even if it seems somewhat trivial, such as How many mass extinctions have there been?

FTR, the answer is 3, 5, 8, or 11 depending on your perspective.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:35 pm to
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Why not?



One of the topics raised is if there is an absolute smallest quantifiable unit of force, thus a limit to gravity. And if gravity is the curvature of space time, is there an absolute smallest quantifiable unit of length for the space to curve to create it.
This post was edited on 1/25/16 at 11:36 pm
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:37 pm to
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One of the topics raised is if there is an absolute smallest quantifiable unit of force, thus a limit to gravity. And if gravity is the curvature of space time, is there an absolute smallest quantifiable unit of length for the space to curve to create it.



I literally can't even
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:40 pm to
The universe is shaped exactly like the earth. You go straight long enough, you'll end up where you were.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:40 pm to
No and no
Posted by Akit1
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:47 pm to
Great read. Thanks for posting.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:48 pm to
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No and no



I don't know enough to agree nor disagree, I've not read anything to suggest that there is a limit though.

How about this, gravity propagates at the speed of light. If the universe is infinite and expanding in all directions, even if the expansion rate at any point is significantly less than c the overall effect would be adding space of more than a light year from any point. This implies that space as a whole expands faster than light (in a way), and that there are points that even the effects of gravity traveling at the speed of light can't reach because the cumulative effect is that it expanded away faster than that?
Posted by DeathValley85
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:49 pm to
I want to even.

But
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I literally can't even

Posted by ErectileReptile
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:52 pm to
well is there gravity in space?
Posted by WareagleTD
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:57 pm to
Yes why do you think the planets rotate around the sun
Posted by ErectileReptile
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:58 pm to
It was rhetorical
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:59 pm to
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This implies that space as a whole expands faster than light (in a way), and that there are points that even the effects of gravity traveling at the speed of light can't reach because the cumulative effect is that it expanded away faster than that?



I've basically given up on understanding what space is expanding inside of in the first place. Is it creating new space? I imagine an explosion that is expanding outward, but I'm incapable of comprehending what is going on "outside" of that explosion.
Posted by ErectileReptile
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 12:00 am to
But to answer seriously I would think that since literally every object in the universe has a gravitational attraction I would assume yes
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 12:06 am to
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I've basically given up on understanding what space is expanding inside of in the first place. Is it creating new space? I imagine an explosion that is expanding outward, but I'm incapable of comprehending what is going on "outside" of that explosion.


im not sure if "inside of" is the right way to look at it, but maybe rather "within itself"? And there is no way for us to know what is "outside" the explosion if there is even an outside, because nothing we've observed indicates any edge to the universe (not to say there isn't one, it just doesn't seem currently possible for us to know one way or the other).
Posted by ScrapPack
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 12:10 am to
Of course it is. How else do you think Murph got the co-ordinates to the space station?
Posted by Cruiserhog
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 12:14 am to
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But to answer seriously I would think that since literally every object in the universe has a gravitational attraction I would assume yes



you can fiqure out the gravitational attraction bn any two objects by using Newton's law. be prepared to be severely disappointed with r^2 being a denominator

btw did you know the universe is about 93 billion light years across. You got a known 13 billion in both directions but due to measuring redshift and knowing expansion physicist actually think its about 46 billion in both directions.



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