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Doctors: Ex-North Korea detainee Otto Warmbier has severe brain injury

Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:19 pm
Posted by Phat Phil
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:19 pm
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(CNN)Doctors caring for released North Korea detainee Otto Warmbier said he has not spoken or moved on his own since he arrived in the United States on Tuesday.

They described his condition as "unresponsive wakefulness," also known as persistent vegetative state.
The 22-year-old has suffered extensive loss of brain tissue in all regions of the brain, doctors at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center said in a news conference Thursday. He opens his eyes and blinks spontaneously but shows no signs of understanding language or responding to verbal commands, said Dr. Daniel Kanter, professor of neurology and director of the Neurocritical Care Program.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:20 pm to
fricking black death is some serious shite
Posted by Godfather1
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:22 pm to
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Doctors: Ex-North Korea detainee Otto Warmbier has severe brain injury


Yeah, that's what happens when they improperly lobotomize you.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:22 pm to
If any other sovereign nation detained, beat, and caused severe brain damage to our citizen, what would happen?
Posted by Keltic Tiger
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:22 pm to
Has there been anything said as to what caused it? As in blunt trauma, etc?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:23 pm to
they claim it was botulism

but more likely either drugging/drowning that cut off air flow to his brain
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:24 pm to
Not yet.

Does anyone know if those arse holes have any more of our people?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:24 pm to
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If any other sovereign nation detained, beat, and caused severe brain damage to our citizen, what would happen?

IF he was travelling to France and this happened, I'd be pissed. He went to NK, so I don't really GAF.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:24 pm to
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they claim it was botulism


Actually they said just the opposite

One of the drs in the press conference today said there was no evidence of botulism
Posted by GetCocky11
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:25 pm to
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Does anyone know if those arse holes have any more of our people?



I believe 3 Americans are currently in NK prisons/labor camps.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:25 pm to
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Does anyone know if those arse holes have any more of our people?



Heard 3 others on the news.

I assume that doesn't count the assclown defector who still lives there.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:26 pm to
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He went to NK, so I don't really GAF.


To a point I understand this. But even Americans in Iran don't get treated like this.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 6:27 pm
Posted by NikeShox
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:28 pm to
Had must have had a brain injury before he went to NK. Why the hell would he want to go to NK?
Posted by Tactical Insertion
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:28 pm to
He spoke his first words after confirming his brain injury today, "Ed O was a great hire."
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
134835 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:29 pm to
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To a point I think understand this. But even Americans in Iran don't get treated like this.

I never said they deserved it. I'm simply saying that it's a result of their own stupidity and I'll never put a service member's life on the line for that blatant stupidity.
Posted by ShyftingTiger91
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:29 pm to
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Fred Warmbier appeared critical of the Obama administration's handling of Otto's detention, saying the family heeded the US government's initial advice to take a low profile "without result."

What does it take to get an American released from North Korea? What does it take to get an American released from North Korea? They kept quiet "on the false premise that (North Korea) would treat Otto fairly and let him go," he said.


If true, ouch.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98111 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:30 pm to
They said there was no sign of recent or healed skeletal injuries. They also called bullshite on botulism. No sign of that. They said respiratory arrest is unusual in a young healthy person and usually caused by some kind of trauma. The only people who know are in NK and they arent telling.

The docs were clearly briefed not to say too much. They may know or suspect something but are keeping it on the down low.

Oddly enough they seemed to take decent care of him afterward. His skin was in good condition which is a tell for whether a bedridden person is being well cared for.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:32 pm to
So what do you think they did to him?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98111 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:36 pm to
No telling. Something that didnt leave permanent marks. Water torture, a drug experiment that went wrong. Maybe he was suicidal and tried to hang himself and they found him before he finished the job.
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
120144 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:37 pm to
I think driving through North BR is dumb

Traveling to North Korea makes you a Darwin award candidate
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