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re: Do we Idolize the Military Service Men and Women too much in America?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:39 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:39 am to Hugo Stiglitz
You can type this idiotic question b/c of them now go frick yourself. 
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:46 am to Hugo Stiglitz
I wonder how many people in here who are preaching "thank the military no matter what" also call people "bootlickers" for thanking police officers no matter what...
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:54 am to Hugo Stiglitz
I wish I could downvote you more than once.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:54 am to Hugo Stiglitz
I wouldn't say it's "idolizing". It is more like taking a little time out of our lives and thanking them for what they do.
I'm sure there have been a lot of answers just like mine, but maybe if you read it enough, you'll get it.
I'm sure there have been a lot of answers just like mine, but maybe if you read it enough, you'll get it.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:41 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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They work less than teachers, and you see the backlash teachers get for not working over summer...
That is very true. DONSA for this DONSA for that. All federal holidays. Block leave for Christmas for all of December and first week of January. At 1AD at Fort Bliss mandatory family time everyone is off NLT 1500 EVERY Thursday.
GTFO with that shite. 6 month deployment every 2 years. The time between deployments was spent going out for weeks here and there to train for deployment. In port we were 3 section duty (sleep on the boat every 3rd day). Non-duty days were 8 to 9 hour days unless there was a lot of maintenance going on which could put you working 20 hours some days.
Maybe the punk arse Army got "family time" but if you want family time on a fast attack you better get them to come eat dinner with you on the boat.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:58 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Yes, we do overkill our love for military. There is a lot of military members that deserve this praise though, but there are a lot of civilians doing very hazardous jobs and some not hazardous to better our society that deserve just as much too that don't get it.
We don't go around blindly thanking random doctors that save lives in peace and war time. Don't they deserve that thanks.
It's ok to bash the frick out of police now, but they are out there trying to protect us every day from douchebags. They put themselves in the line of fire in peace time as well.
Military gratitude is drilled into us for a reason though.
We don't go around blindly thanking random doctors that save lives in peace and war time. Don't they deserve that thanks.
It's ok to bash the frick out of police now, but they are out there trying to protect us every day from douchebags. They put themselves in the line of fire in peace time as well.
Military gratitude is drilled into us for a reason though.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 7:59 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:59 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Do we Idolize the Military Service Men and Women too much in America?
Subjective question is subjective. An objective inquiry in response might be 'what alternative do you suggest?'
Maybe we do lay it on a bit thick and maybe some in the service and anyone who feels compelled to utter the words 'thank you' are made a bit uncomfortable -for what ever reason.
However, in the vast majority of cases, simply honoring someone's commitment to be in service to their country seems like a decent and reasonable courtesy causing little (if any) harm and costing little (if any) consequence.
And, as has been acknowledged to a very great extent, the fact that anyone is able to pose such questions as raised by the OP is due in large part to these very same service members and their predecessors.
Simply put: what is so damn difficult about showing a little respect toward someone in our country's uniform?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:02 am to Hugo Stiglitz
As a veteran, I don't go out of my way to let it be known that I am one. Especially when there were many others with much more demanding, strenuous, and emotionally exhausting jobs. That being said, if it comes up in conversation and I receive a thank you, I am appreciative.
However, the thank you isn't all that necessary. It was my choice and my pleasure to serve, and it was honestly some of the best years of my life.
However, the thank you isn't all that necessary. It was my choice and my pleasure to serve, and it was honestly some of the best years of my life.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:03 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Sure we do and then divert funds for their care to the professional poor.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:06 am to terd ferguson
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GTFO with that shite. 6 month deployment every 2 years. The time between deployments was spent going out for weeks here and there to train for deployment. In port we were 3 section duty (sleep on the boat every 3rd day). Non-duty days were 8 to 9 hour days unless there was a lot of maintenance going on which could put you working 20 hours some days.
Maybe the punk arse Army got "family time" but if you want family time on a fast attack you better get them to come eat dinner with you on the boat.
Family time for me was when my (now ex) wife would bring our son down to the ship while I was on duty.
My first 2 years on the boat, we were never home longer than 2 weeks except when we dry-docked for 30 days once. I'm not complaining, I knew what I signed up for...and my service paid for my college degree.
I don't want anyone to kiss my arse because I served. I'd rather you spend that energy on the families of fallen/wounded servicemembers.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 8:08 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:09 am to Hugo Stiglitz
after 9/11, there were a lot of people who beat the war drum, but had no intention of serving a day in the armed forces. others did, you should be grateful they did volunteer for a dangerous, low paying job and didn't result in you getting drafted.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:13 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Many of them are probably complete a-holes just like the rest of society.
This could be said of any profession. What does this have to do with anything?
Having served alongside some of them in time of war, quite honestly some of the worst people I've ever met are the servicemembers I'd most want on my side.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 8:15 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:13 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Probably your best troll ever
9/10
(No such thing as an OT 10)
9/10
(No such thing as an OT 10)
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:14 am to Tigeralum2008
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I'm not complaining, I knew what I signed up for...
I'm not complaining either. I picked the most demanding job on the boat (MM). I knew it was long hours and a lot of work but I loved doing what I did.
I'm just trying to point out that saying teachers work more hours than military is fricking retarded.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:16 am to GetCocky11
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This sounds like something that I would read in a George Orwell novel.
My favorite was "People Sleep Peacefully in Their Beds at Night Only Because Rough Men Stand Ready to Do Violence on Their Behalf"
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:18 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Obvious troll is obvious
Troll on,
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:20 am to terd ferguson
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I'm not complaining either. I picked the most demanding job on the boat (MM). I knew it was long hours and a lot of work but I loved doing what I did.
I'm just trying to point out that saying teachers work more hours than military is fricking retarded.
wasn't accusing you terd. much respect to all my submariner OTers. I merely put that in my comment so others would not accuse me of complaining
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:30 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Yes. They get waaaaaay too much praise. Woo hoo you are in the military. I am of the opinion, that the only ones who get my respect and deserve the most praise and support are the ones who've actually been in combat and injured or seriously disabled from combat. Everyone else, no.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:34 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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hat's not why people join up and volunteer to go to war. It's all about the body count and getting it in. I know this first hand. As an ex AH-64 pilot in RC-E once I got those first few engagements it didn't matter I was going to manipulate situations to fit my pre-defined narrative to engage regardless of the circumstances and the JTACs were all for it. It becomes a blood lust. Civilians have no clue what that is what that is why they think we are making sacrifices and should be lauded for being in harms way. Hate to break it to them I've dropped an entire ALP (Afghan Local Police) checkpoint, shot pakmil, and killed civilians and lost zero sleep over it. In fact if placed in the same situation I would do it again.
And many of these kinds are POS, especially the ones who purposefully kill civilians for no other reasons than to get kills.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 8:40 am
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