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Did "institutional racism" cause/contribute to Dylann Roof's murdering blacks?

Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:26 am
Posted by Hope Seternal
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:26 am
Pardon my white ignorance, but what "institution" was behind this racism? Was he affiliated with the KKK? Some other organization? Has not "white America" repudiated such organizations enough?
Posted by arseinclarse
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:27 am to
His girl started getting bbc. He wasn't happy.

LINK

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The alleged hate-fueled killer “kind of went over the edge when a girl he liked starting dating a black guy two years back,” Scott Roof said.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:27 am to
That's not what they mean by "institutional racism"
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:28 am to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:28 am to
His stupidity and shitting parental influences caused his racism.

Posted by Sev09
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:30 am to
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a girl he liked

Does not equal
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His girl


Sounds like a lonely nerd. Probably never talked to her.
Posted by Hope Seternal
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:31 am to
So they're talking about "systemic racism" or "systematic" racism? While I'm willing to accept that such a problem exists - at least to some degree which could be the subject of debate - what "systemic" or "systematic" racism was acting on this sicko?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:31 am to
SS in 3,2,1...
Posted by Boo Krewe
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:33 am to
girls will make you do crazy things .

his parents are the real culprit
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:33 am to
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Pardon my white ignorance


No. frick you and everyone else who keeps giving this psychotic sociopath the exact notoriety he was aiming for.
Posted by KG6
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:34 am to
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That's not what they mean by "institutional racism"


What does it mean exactly then? I know there is racism. I'm not denying that. I just think stating something is institutionalized means that it is such a common and accepted thing among the majority. I don't think racism is accepted at that type of level. I think on the individual level, yes. Not on the level that our society's views and acceptance of racism led to this kid thinking it was okay to kill these people.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:36 am to
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So they're talking about "systemic racism" or "systematic" racism? While I'm willing to accept that such a problem exists - at least to some degree which could be the subject of debate - what "systemic" or "systematic" racism was acting on this sicko?



To play devil's advocate, I think you could say that the negative perception of black people that led Dylann Roof to hate black people arose as the product of disparities in wealth or education (in the black community), which is arguably the result of institutionalized racism. Thus, Roof perceived that the black community was an underclass, and they were easier to hate.

Or, one might say that institutionalized racism in policing and media contributed to the portrayal of the Travon Martin situation, which influenced Roof.

But, I don't think any of those arguments are especially compelling. Strikes me as a rather stupid kid, perhaps with mental health issues, who latched on to a cause.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:38 am to
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What does it mean exactly then?

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Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:38 am to
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What does it mean exactly then? I know there is racism. I'm not denying that. I just think stating something is institutionalized means that it is such a common and accepted thing among the majority. I don't think racism is accepted at that type of level. I think on the individual level, yes. Not on the level that our society's views and acceptance of racism led to this kid thinking it was okay to kill these people.



The OP followed up and honed in on it. It seemed he first implied it was connected to an institution/entity, and then recognized they were referring to "systemic" racism, similar to what you're saying.
Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:40 am to
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His girl started getting bbc. He wasn't happy.


I fricking knew it had something to do with being insecure about having a little white dick! I guarantee if they analyzed all these shooters they would find a correlation in regards to below average dick size. Further correlate this to amount of tang they are getting/not getting and you have the root of the problem.
I guarantee if any of the mass shooters were getting laid they would never have considered doing what they did.
Posted by Hope Seternal
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:41 am to
I don't want to give this psychotic sociopath any notoriety at all. I also don't want to give any credence to any half-baked theory that says he acted out of influence from some system that's pretty much everybody says they're opposed to, and which may or may not exist.
Posted by MrLarson
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:41 am to
No, it was the Confederate Flag that made him do what he did.
Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:44 am to
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No, it was the Confederate Flag that made him do what he did.


I would imagine he probably envisioned more "support" for what he was about to do considering a racist symbol was flying over his state capital.
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:45 am to
Now people have to be a member of a group to hate? There is an abundance of hate in the world for a multitude of reasons.

Religion is still #1 in the world, Skin color is #2, Nationality is prob third. Different places have different rankings. If everyone in the area has the same religion, there will be hate for something else. This isn't hard to understand.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:50 am to
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I would imagine he probably envisioned more "support"


Anyone who murders a group of people is a dumb count. He didn't do it for any other reason than being a dumb count. Flags, BBC nor anything else made him do what he did. Anyone trying to say it was something else is a dumb count too.
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