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Daily millennials thread... dire straits in the job market

Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:33 pm
Posted by TejasHorn
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:33 pm
present OT ballers excluded of course...

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Only 36% of college grads have jobs that pay at least $45,000, a sharp decline from the 1990s, after adjusting for inflation.

Perhaps most depressingly, the percentage of young people making below $25,000 has topped 20%, worse than in 1990. In other words, those with a bachelor's diploma were better off before the digital revolution.



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If this comes as a surprise, that's because images from popular culture push the idea that young college graduates are shrugging off bad employment prospects with their do-it-yourself attitude.

In our collective imagination, millennials are saying, "No jobs? That's OK — I'll create my own!" And then they solve their own problems by heading to Silicon Valley with little more than an iPhone and an idea to create the next hip app that supposedly will turn them into overnight millionaires.


How can we fix this? I fear we're headed to institutionalized underemployment in this country.

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This post was edited on 3/19/15 at 4:35 pm
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:34 pm to
they all want money for nothing
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:36 pm to
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How can we fix this?


Awareness bro, gotta promote awareness.
Posted by King of New Orleans
In front of The Hungry Tiger
Member since Jul 2011
9946 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:36 pm to
They want their MTV
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

How can we fix this?


kill off the SJWs?

Then if thats not enough, throw in the hipsters too??
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:37 pm to
Bring back forced retirement?
Posted by JonaYolles
Member since Feb 2015
315 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:38 pm to
I would like to see how many of the 36% that make over $45k are living in areas with a higher cost of living vs lower cost of living. Say 60% of that 36% live in cities like D.C, SF and NYC, that means the remaining 40% are spread out over more cities, and the numbers are skewed.

what can we do to fix this? Pay people what they're worth, and not try to cut corners and save money by offering people less than what they deserve. As owners, managers and leaders, we need to be willing to fork over money for talent. Nobody should have to live in poverty if they're willing to work.

The cost of getting that degree is only increasing and the people in charge don't care - see this article from the front page of reddit today as an example

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So.. millennials are starting out with higher debt (student loans), less jobs to choose from, and the starting pay is terrible, unless you are in an in-demand field - and even then, you aren't escaping those student loans.
This post was edited on 3/19/15 at 4:40 pm
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

How can we fix this?


Send less people to college
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

How can we fix this?


Don't devalue the worth of a college diploma by telling all kids that college will be neccessary to achieve success in life.


Oops. Too late...
This post was edited on 3/19/15 at 4:41 pm
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

How can we fix this?


Raise minimum wage.
Posted by JonaYolles
Member since Feb 2015
315 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:42 pm to
quote:


Don't devalue the worth of a college diploma by telling all kids that college will be neccessary to ever suceed at life.


Oops. Too late...




true fricking story. and then as the naive college student that you are, ou go for that master's and dig yourself more in debt, only to find out people aren't willing to hire you because while you have an impressive education, you have no real life work experience.
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:42 pm to
We also have to take into account a more competitive job market both from outsourcing and more H1B visas. When you increase the size of the labor force what happens to wages?
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:43 pm to
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Only 36% of college grads have jobs that pay at least $45,000
Made the cut
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

Perhaps most depressingly, the percentage of young people making below $25,000 has topped 20%, worse than in 1990. In other words, those with a bachelor's diploma were better off before the digital revolution.


Here's a tip: Don't think of any job as beneath you as your slinging coffee at Starbucks.

Effin A -- Office Space

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66997 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

dire straits in the job market




I guess they really need to move those refrigerators.
Posted by JonaYolles
Member since Feb 2015
315 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:47 pm to
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We also have to take into account a more competitive job market both from outsourcing and more H1B visas. When you increase the size of the labor force what happens to wages?


Wages are going to stay low - basic supply and demand, except that in this case we have artificially created the supply, because companies don't need to outsource jobs - companies choose to to save money and line the pockets of management and investors. frick the employees.

Another thing - non sequitur to outsourcing/H1B visas:

Silicon Valley (as mentioned in the OP). f you don't know your way around tech and know basic development/coding - you're probably not making more than $50k/year and you're being driven out of the market because you can't afford to live off that salary. Or you rent a place with 4 others. That's no way to start your "adult" life.
This post was edited on 3/19/15 at 4:48 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80158 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:48 pm to
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How can we fix this? I fear we're headed to institutionalized underemployment in this country.


Baby boomers die off or retire and we ban technology from advancing any further.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64383 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

nly 36% of college grads have jobs that pay at least $45,000, a sharp decline from the 1990s, after adjusting for inflation.

Perhaps most depressingly, the percentage of young people making below $25,000 has topped 20%, worse than in 1990. In other words, those with a bachelor's diploma were better off before the digital revolution.


They wanted "hope & change"? Well, they got it and then some.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66997 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:50 pm to
I'm a member of that 36%, I don't live in any of the cities you listed, and I have zero student debt. I must be one of the super lucky ones.
Posted by JonaYolles
Member since Feb 2015
315 posts
Posted on 3/19/15 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

Baby boomers die off or retire


except that a lot of them can't afford to or don't want to retire - selfish fricks
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