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Curious on how online advertising works

Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:22 am
Posted by skygod123
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:22 am
so there was a purse thread the other day LINK where a hubby was asking the LLotOT what 3K purse to buy his wife. And, then some purse ads popped up on TD.

It got me wondering how google (or whomever td has for ads) works. I mean im sure its over my head algorithm mumbo jumbo, but can anyone give me a layman's definition. Im curious.

TIA.
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:23 am to
I had a Louis v ad come up as was reading the thread. Crazy fast.
Posted by roguetiger15
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:25 am to
Cookies that find key words. Play per click
Posted by skygod123
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:28 am to
quote:

I had a Louis v ad come up as was reading the thread. Crazy fast.
im really amazed. not even kidding. but, i kinda want the concept demystified for me.
Posted by Alatgr
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:49 am to
I once had a friend send me a link for a funny tshirt at one of them online tshirt places. My TD Mobile ads are now all online tshirt shops all the time. So your internet history obviously has a lot to do with it
Posted by skygod123
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:50 am to
quote:

I once had a friend send me a link for a funny tshirt at one of them online tshirt places. My TD Mobile ads are now all online tshirt shops all the time. So your internet history obviously has a lot to do with it
does that mean your ads on TD are different from my ads?
Posted by Alatgr
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:51 am to
And now my current TD Mobile ad is for an Assisted Living facility. Google knows I'm old. FML.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 10:52 am
Posted by skygod123
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:52 am to
mine is sleep number (i was doing some internet research on sleep aid supplements this week on this computer). its freaking scary!
Posted by Alatgr
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:53 am to
quote:

does that mean your ads on TD are different from my ads?


Not necessarily but quite likely.
Posted by Queen
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:55 am to
Advertisers pay different prices depending on how much info they have.

If you advertise on Google AdWords on the search network, you'll pay per click when someone searches one of your keywords. So if you're an architect in Nola, you want someone searching for terms relating to "new orleans architect" or something. Price depends on how many other advertisers are trying to reach the same audience.

The display network can be segmented by geography, demographic, search re-targeting, keyword targeting, etc. You pay more for a more "qualified" audience. So demographic targeting is more expensive than just geographic targeting, because it's more specific.

Yes, your Internet history plays a huge role in this, especially on Google because they sell a LOT of ads.

Not sure exactly how TD does it, but that's the gist of Internet advertising.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:57 am to
The ads are based on your browser history and make money per each person that clicks on them. It's pretty incredible. If you really want to get your mind blown research how google orders those first couple of ads every time you search something.
Posted by Scream4LSU
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:01 am to
It's pretty simple how it works actually. As a page is delivered to the browser the dynamic add code looks at several things. The meta tags within the page which are just simple key words that define at a high level what content is on the page but the more real time part is it looks at all the text in the page and crosswalks any keyword to the adds keyword. So for your purse example on the rendered page was "purse" and the add is saved with that keyword somewhere and a match was made and it delivered the add.

To add to the other comments on cookies. TD has google add services delivering those adds. So any site you visit that has that service on its site will pull your google add services cookie to see the sites you have been to so they can personalize your delivery even further. So an aggregate of the sites you visit in that cookie make up your add filter. If you clear that cookie you will notice that your ads will go back to general/priority content. This is a multibillion dollar business by the way.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 11:15 am
Posted by skygod123
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:17 am to
quote:

If you really want to get your mind blown research how google orders those first couple of ads every time you search something.


okay, so when i went to search google about the ads are chosen, i got a lot of companies adverting that they could put your business on google.

I dont want to advertise on google. i dont have a business to advertise. im more intrigued on how google works to target geographic and demographics to get an ad in front of the face of someone who actually clicks on it and checks out a business.

give me some buzz words to research it.
Posted by Scream4LSU
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:21 am to
I'll try and send you some links, searching for it will be difficult.

The geographic part is based on your IP address. IP addresses are issued out to service providers and can be easily connected to a geographic location. So when your computer gets an address handed to it a website knows with a pretty good accuracy where you are.
Posted by Queen
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:23 am to
This is probably not exactly what you're looking for, but it's Google's AdWords site:

LINK

As for the technology behind it...I'm not sure it's out there on Google's site, but some blog probably has it.
Posted by Scream4LSU
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:25 am to
She is just trying to understand how they do it in general. She doesn't want to advertise.
Posted by skygod123
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:27 am to
quote:

I'll try and send you some links, searching for it will be difficult.
yeah, i dont know the lingo enough to know how to educate myself on the process.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:29 am to
quote:

im more intrigued on how google works to target geographic and demographics to get an ad in front of the face of someone who actually clicks on it and checks out a business.
The geographic part is pretty easy. IP addresses are pretty well mapped out to where they are supposed to be located. Demographics is pretty easy, too, considering Google knows almost everyone's search history, and in many cases their actual name and age via their various services. Obviously, when you search google for something, they are going to show ads about what you're searching for. Those ads will also "follow you around" to most of the millions of sites that use Google's ad services. In addition, those millions of sites that use google ads remember that you visited them, and that information is also used to "profile" you. For example, if you were to search google for "purses", and then visit a particular brand's website, you might see ads for that particular brand of purse on completely unrelated websites. In addition, as someone mentioned, the content of the page you are actually on is also considered and weighted heavily in deciding on which ads to show you.

And all of this is probably tailored to the individual, too. Google is constantly testing and tweaking the programs that decide what each individual would be most likely to click on.

Hope this helps.
Posted by Scream4LSU
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:32 am to
The concept is called ad serving. This will help you out instead of searching around.

LINK /

Also truth/myths on cookies.

LINK
Posted by Queen
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:33 am to
quote:

She is just trying to understand how they do it in general. She doesn't want to advertise.


I know, but the site has a lot of links on the options, etc.

However, I did mention searching for blogs that would outline the process. Here are a couple I found on my search. Good start.

Infographic on Google AdWords process

How Google and 104 other companies are following me on the Web
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