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re: Cop Shoots Wife in Addis (updated)
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:40 pm to Btrtigerfan
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:40 pm to Btrtigerfan
Well for starters, its Addis Police. Then add the fact that he was a reserve....
Highly doubt he was well trained or had "many hours" of firearm training.
Either way, this was preventable
Highly doubt he was well trained or had "many hours" of firearm training.
Either way, this was preventable
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 11:41 pm
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:48 pm to Ho0k3d0nFoNiCs
I would love to see his training records. Probably laughable
Posted on 2/6/16 at 12:08 am to Btrtigerfan
This just in from Houston Texas area.
Off-duty officer accidentally fires gun, hits neighbor.
?JAN 31, 2016
CLUTE — A recent law enforcement academy graduate who joined the Freeport Police Department last month is on administrative leave after shooting a neighbor in what police said was an accident.
The victim, a 35-year-old man, was sleeping when he was shot about 4 a.m. Saturday at an apartment complex in the 100 block of Lakeview Drive in Clute, according to a news release from Clute Police Department. He was taken by LifeFlight to Memorial Hermann Hospital in Houston with a gunshot wound to the lower left back, the release states.
The Facts
Off-duty officer accidentally fires gun, hits neighbor.
?JAN 31, 2016
CLUTE — A recent law enforcement academy graduate who joined the Freeport Police Department last month is on administrative leave after shooting a neighbor in what police said was an accident.
The victim, a 35-year-old man, was sleeping when he was shot about 4 a.m. Saturday at an apartment complex in the 100 block of Lakeview Drive in Clute, according to a news release from Clute Police Department. He was taken by LifeFlight to Memorial Hermann Hospital in Houston with a gunshot wound to the lower left back, the release states.
The Facts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 12:15 am to Btrtigerfan
What's the percentage. Of accidental discharges of firearms that go off while "cleaning" them that hit people?
I bet its pretty high.
I will never buy the "accidental" shooting while cleaning a gun excuse. Never.
I bet its pretty high.
I will never buy the "accidental" shooting while cleaning a gun excuse. Never.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 5:54 am to East Coast Band
Remember this from last year... Police Chief shoots wife wile asleep
quote:
The police chief in an upscale community outside Atlanta said he was sleeping when he moved a gun in the bed and accidentally shot his wife in the back,according to a 911 tape released Friday.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 6:49 am to Btrtigerfan
yeah I don't believe the "accident" story.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 6:55 am to monsterballads
If it was an accident that is truly scary how little training this man had with a weapon. How do you not unload your guy before you start cleaning it?!?
Posted on 2/6/16 at 7:21 am to TitleistProV1X
The first action you take to disassemble a glock is to pull the trigger so you can remove the slide. It's sad because, assuming it was an accident, he violated two basic safety rules: he failed to check if his gun was loaded and failed to point it away from anything important until he verified it was unloaded. There are many accidental discharges that happen before people start cleaning their guns because they don't confirm its not loaded (but you rarely hear of them because random holes though walls or roofs rarely make the news), but it's sad when those accidents occur when the gun happens to be pointed at someone. Whether that failure rises to the level of criminal negligence can be discussed, but it's not such an uncommon occurrence that we should assume malicious intent every time it happens.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 7:34 am to Jack Bauers HnK
My dad "accidentally discharged" his .38 while cleaning when I was younger. It also just so happened to be at a moment when my mom, who had just filed for divorce, was around and in the direction of the bullets path
Posted on 2/6/16 at 7:37 am to TitleistProV1X
"The first action you take to disassemble a glock is to pull the trigger so you can remove the slide."
No that is not the first action you take.
From Glock
STEP 1
REMOVE THE MAGAZINE AND CLEAR CHAMBER. DO THIS BY LOCKING BACK THE SLIDE. BE SURE THERE IS NOT A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER BY VISUAL AND PHYSICAL INSPECTION. RELEASE THE SLIDE AND POINT THE PISTOL IN A SAFE DIRECTION.
No that is not the first action you take.
From Glock
STEP 1
REMOVE THE MAGAZINE AND CLEAR CHAMBER. DO THIS BY LOCKING BACK THE SLIDE. BE SURE THERE IS NOT A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER BY VISUAL AND PHYSICAL INSPECTION. RELEASE THE SLIDE AND POINT THE PISTOL IN A SAFE DIRECTION.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 7:54 am to zuluboudreaux
quote:
"The first action you take to disassemble a glock is to pull the trigger so you can remove the slide."
No that is not the first action you take.
From Glock
STEP 1
REMOVE THE MAGAZINE AND CLEAR CHAMBER. DO THIS BY LOCKING BACK THE SLIDE. BE SURE THERE IS NOT A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER BY VISUAL AND PHYSICAL INSPECTION. RELEASE THE SLIDE AND POINT THE PISTOL IN A SAFE DIRECTION.
Far be it from me to start a semantics argument over when unloading ends and disassembling begins, but I think we can assume he means that the first step in removing the slide from an unloaded Glock is to pull the trigger.
This post was edited on 2/6/16 at 7:55 am
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:10 am to Huey Lewis
That's why I rack my slide about a half dozen times after removing the mag. I don't wannna be the moron that everyone in my department talks about after blowing my finger off while cleaning my Glock.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:17 am to Btrtigerfan
She must have been a real dog
:rimshot:
:rimshot:
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:31 am to zuluboudreaux
quote:
STEP 1
REMOVE THE MAGAZINE AND CLEAR CHAMBER. DO THIS BY LOCKING BACK THE SLIDE. BE SURE THERE IS NOT A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER BY VISUAL AND PHYSICAL INSPECTION. RELEASE THE SLIDE AND POINT THE PISTOL IN A SAFE DIRECTION.
Exactly. I find it very difficult to believe a trained LEO didn't know that. That's basic gun safety.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:41 am to Btrtigerfan
quote:
quote:
Huh, the state police investigated. They didn't investigate themselves.
cops=cops
Yeah because we should have NOT COPS investigating shootings? I think AC Repair guys would be a good group to take over these types of investigations.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:11 am to Dead End
Right. It doesn't take hours of special training. The very first thing my dad taught me as a young kid is assume every gun is loaded and has a round in the chamber.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:17 am to BigDropper
quote:
The police chief in an upscale community outside Atlanta said he was sleeping when he moved a gun in the bed and accidentally shot his wife in the back,according to a 911 tape released Friday.
Yep, I remember that. I don't buy that story either. He ought to be in a jail cell next to OJ, IMO.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:17 am to SoFla Tideroller
quote:
That's why I rack my slide about a half dozen times after removing the mag.
That's just silly.
Pull your slide back....lock it to the rear.....visually and manually check the barrel/chamber for a round....and your good.
That is the correct way.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:19 am to Jack Bauers HnK
quote:
The first action you take to disassemble a glock is to pull the trigger so you can remove the slide.
Please tell me you don't seriously believe this.
As for this cop, this was no "accident". But as usual, cops will look out for their own and he will walk. Hell, look at what just happened in Colorado where a cop shot an killed an unarmed man at a bike show in front of dozens of witnesses and walked.
This post was edited on 2/6/16 at 9:21 am
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:21 am to Btrtigerfan
quote:
a law officer that has hours upon hours of firearms training,
Ask me how I know you're an idiot.
Common sense is to unload a firearm before cleaning.
After reassembly, you typically cycle it a few times to make sure it is working correctly. And that is when UIDs happen. It is extremely common for people to reinsert the mag and then do this step.
I will not clean a firearm eith ammunition in the same area because of this.
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