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Clemson - expecting people to be on time is culturally insensitive.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:33 pm
time is fluid[quote]According to materials from a diversity-training course at Clemson University, it’s culturally insensitive to expect people to show up on time because “time may be considered fluid” in some cultures.
Clemson’s “Diversity Benefits for Higher Education” initiative — which cost the school more than $25,000, according to Campus Reform — presents its participants with slides featuring hypothetical scenarios, and asks them to select the correct, culturally sensitive action from a list of options.
Alejandro scheduled a 9:00 a.m. meeting with two groups of visiting professors and students from other countries,” one of the scenarios states. “When he arrived, he found that the first group had been waiting for fifteen minutes.”
“The second group arrived at 9:10 and wanted to socialize first,” it continues. “What should Alejandro do?”
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The slide then lists three options:
1. “Politely ask the second group to apologize.”
2. “Explain, ‘In our country, 9:00 a.m. means 9:00 a.m.’”
3. “As the meeting organizer, he should recognize cultural differences that may impact the meeting and adjust accordingly.”
The correct answer, according to the slide, is option three.
“Time may be considered precise or fluid depending on the culture,” the slide explains. “For Alejandro to bring three cultures together he must start from a place of respect, understanding that his cultural perspective regarding time is is neither more nor less valid than any other.”quote]
My guess is SC will catch up and surpass Clemson in the near future.
Clemson’s “Diversity Benefits for Higher Education” initiative — which cost the school more than $25,000, according to Campus Reform — presents its participants with slides featuring hypothetical scenarios, and asks them to select the correct, culturally sensitive action from a list of options.
Alejandro scheduled a 9:00 a.m. meeting with two groups of visiting professors and students from other countries,” one of the scenarios states. “When he arrived, he found that the first group had been waiting for fifteen minutes.”
“The second group arrived at 9:10 and wanted to socialize first,” it continues. “What should Alejandro do?”
–– ADVERTISEMENT ––
The slide then lists three options:
1. “Politely ask the second group to apologize.”
2. “Explain, ‘In our country, 9:00 a.m. means 9:00 a.m.’”
3. “As the meeting organizer, he should recognize cultural differences that may impact the meeting and adjust accordingly.”
The correct answer, according to the slide, is option three.
“Time may be considered precise or fluid depending on the culture,” the slide explains. “For Alejandro to bring three cultures together he must start from a place of respect, understanding that his cultural perspective regarding time is is neither more nor less valid than any other.”quote]
My guess is SC will catch up and surpass Clemson in the near future.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:36 pm to TimeOutdoors
What about the late culture respecting the other culture and getting there on time? Why is it only one-sided?
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:37 pm to TimeOutdoors
Let those SJW's try that when they get a jo.....
I couldn't finish that sentence.
I couldn't finish that sentence.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:37 pm to TimeOutdoors
This information is business 101. When dealing with clients or stakeholders from other countries you have to be aware of their cultural norms. I really don't see what the big deal is here.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:38 pm to WhiskeyBusiness
Bc frick white people, that's why.
That's the real answer.
That's the real answer.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:38 pm to TimeOutdoors
Have you ever been out of the country?
When we made an appointments in Spain, we did know to not expect them for ~3 hours of when the appointment was made.
When we made an appointments in Spain, we did know to not expect them for ~3 hours of when the appointment was made.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:38 pm to WhiskeyBusiness
I'm pretty sure that in any culture, 9:00 means 9:00.
Whether or not that culture encourages honoring your word is another matter.
Whether or not that culture encourages honoring your word is another matter.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:39 pm to WhiskeyBusiness
Option 3 doesn't appear to take sides. It's just that some cultures have varying ideas of punctuality.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:40 pm to LordSaintly
I don't think Italians like to be punctual. Even Mussolini couldn't get the trains to run on time.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:40 pm to TimeOutdoors
Yes. What is considered on time is fluid. It's not that hard to understand. Different cultures have different ideas about what "on time" is.
In Germany, you arrive ten to fifteen minutes early or you are quite rude. In Greece if you show up at the designated hour you are being rude and imposing on your hosts. in Los Angeles on time is twenty minutes late.
it's not being "sissified" to say that there is not one way to do things and that the way our corporate culture operares is based on one of a very diverse range of cultures that exist here.
In Germany, you arrive ten to fifteen minutes early or you are quite rude. In Greece if you show up at the designated hour you are being rude and imposing on your hosts. in Los Angeles on time is twenty minutes late.
it's not being "sissified" to say that there is not one way to do things and that the way our corporate culture operares is based on one of a very diverse range of cultures that exist here.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:40 pm to tigerpike
quote:
This information is business 101. When dealing with clients or stakeholders from other countries you have to be aware of their cultural norms. I really don't see what the big deal is here.
Me either.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:41 pm to tigerpike
quote:
This information is business 101. When dealing with clients or stakeholders from other countries you have to be aware of their cultural norms. I really don't see what the big deal is here.
So if the lecture starts at 8 I can show at 8:20 and expect the professor to have waited on me before starting his class? Yeah, not happening.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:41 pm to TimeOutdoors
There are some cultures where sleep is sacred and shouldn't be interrupted by alarm clocks. Being late in the morning sometimes is considered acceptable.
Also I want to move there.
Also I want to move there.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:44 pm to LordSaintly
quote:
Option 3 doesn't appear to take sides. It's just that some cultures have varying ideas of punctuality.
Exactly. Option 3 says that Alejandro should lie to them all. He should tell the 1st group that the next meeting will be 15 minutes later than it actually starts. Then he should tell the 2nd group that the meeting starts 30 minutes before it actually starts.
So, in the end, Alejandro makes everyone on time for HIS meeting.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:44 pm to TimeOutdoors
No it means that the class culture "on time" could be adjusted based on the population.
And that if you have a diverse population expecting and adhering to a strict guidance of what is considered on time without forgiveness or acceptance might be an example of cultural bias or enforcement.
Not bad but seems to be common sense.
And that if you have a diverse population expecting and adhering to a strict guidance of what is considered on time without forgiveness or acceptance might be an example of cultural bias or enforcement.
Not bad but seems to be common sense.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:46 pm to athenslife101
quote:
Have you ever been out of the country?
When we made an appointments in Spain, we did know to not expect them for ~3 hours of when the appointment was made.
This training is not for students or international affairs. It's training the University is giving their faculty members.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:46 pm to biglego
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Even Mussolini couldn't get the trains to run on time.
Yeah, and they shot him and hung him upside down at a gas station as a warning to everyone else to get their shite together and be on time.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:47 pm to TimeOutdoors
So I have to respect someone's culture for being late, but they don't have to respect my culture that says be on time?
The logic is gone
The logic is gone
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:48 pm to TimeOutdoors
For decades those dealing w/American Indians have learned to get accustomed to certain people being "on Indian time"
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