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re: Charlotte Police Shooting Videos Released (links in OP)

Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:42 am to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:42 am to
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Did you seriously type this out and think it made sense?

I am pretty sure he meant what law did he break for the cops to roll up on him with guns already drawn?
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18144 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:48 am to
Chief's press release lays out why happened

2 plain clothes officers in unmarked unit were parked getting ready to go serve a warrant

Guys pulls up next to them and starts rolling a joint. Officers didn't care. The warrant was their main priority

Then the guy pulls out his gun and they now see a guy smoking out with a gun out next to them

He then became their priority

Smoking pot is a crime so that's one

But more than likely, South Carolina has a law similar to LA that makes it a felony for you have guns and drugs in your possession at the same time

Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:53 am to
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Chief's press release lays out why happened 2 plain clothes officers in unmarked unit were parked getting ready to go serve a warrant Guys pulls up next to them and starts rolling a joint. Officers didn't care. The warrant was their main priority Then the guy pulls out his gun and they now see a guy smoking out with a gun out next to them He then became their priority Smoking pot is a crime so that's one But more than likely, South Carolina has a law similar to LA that makes it a felony for you have guns and drugs in your possession at the same time


Ah, Gotcha. This may add more questions, since nether video shows him holding a gun (not saying he was not or was; videos are poor). Did they just assume he had a gun still in his hand because they saw him fiddle with it in the car? Have the police released a picture of the gun on the ground, rather than a pic of it already picked up and laid out?
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:55 am to
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Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:57 am to
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The issue is that the left has no solutions, so the right has to take a tough on crime stance to keep thugs like, Keith Scott in check.


No the left offers solutions, such as better training and more restraint, even too much restraint. The too much restraint is down right silly, just as are the right's solutions of a police state or comply or die
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134817 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:58 am to
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Ah, Gotcha. This may add more questions, since nether video shows him holding a gun (not saying he was not or was; videos are poor). Did they just assume he had a gun still in his hand because they saw him fiddle with it in the car? Have the police released a picture of the gun on the ground, rather than a pic of it already picked up and laid out?


I thought I could kinda see a gun in the dashcam vid. When he gets out of the truck, his left hand goes in front of the door and I thought I could make out what possibly could be a gun.

I haven't seen any pics of the gun on the ground but I was hoping we would see that in the video.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
4840 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 11:09 am to
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Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 11:16 am to
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ANY movement by, Keith, that didn't involve releasing his grip on the weapon can be construed as an imminent threat. The police officers did the right thing.

I agree 100%. Just wish the vids were clear the gun in hand. As I see it now, it appears justified.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4383 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:08 am to
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Charlotte


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South Carolina
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259525 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:10 am to

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I agree 100%. Just wish the vids were clear the gun in hand. As I see it now, it appears justified.


I've never really doubted this one, but the Oklahoma one is another story.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1006 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:02 am to
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I've never really doubted this one, but the Oklahoma one is another story.


Facts:
Guy on PCP, tells people his car is going to explode after parking it in the middle of the street. Ignores multiple orders to get on the ground, then walks back to his vehicle and proceeds to reach into the vehicle through the window.

Is it your opinion that the officers should have waited to get shot or blown up?
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16822 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:55 am to
No sense in pretending that race baiters need a logical reason to riot and loot.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:05 am to
The government will never let the market create the solution when it comes to cops/military policy. The government needs to maintain it's monopoly on violence to stay in control.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:06 am to
How about we have competition in the marketplace wrt to private corporations doing the policing? The government will never let it happen.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
41598 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:08 am to
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I agree 100%. Just wish the vids were clear the gun in hand. As I see it now, it appears justified.



I have to ask myself in these situations though, was there a chance they could've just used a taser from behind? They had him surrounded, he was just standing there. I agree he didn't comply, but isn't that the point of them having tasers? For a less deadly solution?
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
4840 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:02 am to
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Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18889 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:44 am to
I love the people, not necessarily you in this instance, who say the police planted the gun or that he had a book and not a gun. Explain to me then why he was wearing an ankle holster? The police put the holster on his leg after shooting him? Convenient that the media hasn't talked much about this.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20368 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:18 am to
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I have to ask myself in these situations though, was there a chance they could've just used a taser from behind? They had him surrounded, he was just standing there. I agree he didn't comply, but isn't that the point of them having tasers? For a less deadly solution?


The cops saw his gun, are you honestly telling me that you personally would pull a taser in a gun fight? I mean seriously? Don't give the BS about cops needing to be better trained, there is absolutely no training in this world in which we should ask someone to pull a taser in a gun fight.

It looked to me like in the Wife's video, you could see the gun on the ground to the right of Scott?

Again, the picture of the gun was taken on the ground and the hammer was cocked. So I'm taking it that he had the gun in his hand, cocked, and ready to fire when he was shot.
Posted by mailman85
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2013
137 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:24 am to
I'm no fan of these animals rioting however that looks like murder to me. I don't care if he had weed on him or not, and even if he did have a handgun he was not attempting to use it.

Do they not teach intent, capability and opportunity at Police Academy anymore??
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 1:49 pm
Posted by ScopeCreep
In the thick
Member since Jul 2016
636 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:38 am to
If you choose to not comply with police officers who have weapons drawn on you, there isn't much opportunity for a less lethal outcome. Doubly so when you are holding a lethal weapon in your hand while blatantly failing to comply. If he was holding a stick (or even a book) he would probably be alive. A gun? Nah.
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