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re: Best video breakdown of the Cincinnati Tensing/Dubose shooting I have seen yet
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:05 am to Negative Nomad
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:05 am to Negative Nomad
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Clean up your own back yard then maybe we can have an intelligent conversation.
So because black people kill black people it doesn't matter when a white person does it?
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:15 am to Negative Nomad
Um...wow.
Ignoring that and addressing how a dead guy can press on the "accellarator."
Google tells me that press is defined as:
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move or cause to move into a position of contact with something by exerting continuous physical force.
Mr. Newton tells us that force (F) is simply a relationship between the mass (m) of an object and the acceleration (a) acting upon the object, specifically F = (m)(a). In our example, the dead man's leg provides the mass, and Mr Newton's other friend, gravity, provides the acceleration (towards the earth). This results in a net downward force on the dead man's leg/foot and anything on which his foot is resting, e.g., the "axselleratore."
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accellarator
Ignoring that and addressing how a dead guy can press on the "accellarator."
Google tells me that press is defined as:
1.
move or cause to move into a position of contact with something by exerting continuous physical force.
Mr. Newton tells us that force (F) is simply a relationship between the mass (m) of an object and the acceleration (a) acting upon the object, specifically F = (m)(a). In our example, the dead man's leg provides the mass, and Mr Newton's other friend, gravity, provides the acceleration (towards the earth). This results in a net downward force on the dead man's leg/foot and anything on which his foot is resting, e.g., the "axselleratore."
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:18 am to 23hella
I think what he is trying to say is that read the metro section everyday in a major city there are about 3-4 black on black deaths nothing new here no media coverage. Now even though there are hundreds of police stops of blacks and whites everyday and no one mentions this. Now let a black man get shot and they killing our good boys will be heard across all media outlets. How many of these blacks have been seen on video cooperating with the cops and have been shot, zero. Always trying to run, fighting with cop, etc. All you trolls come in here saying he was shot he was trying to get away. Let the jury decide. I watched the video I see a man with no id, alcohol in the car and starting up a car. He made a judgement to start the car and try and run and the cop made a judgment to pull his gun. Let the jury decide.
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:20 am to FutureMikeVIII
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:29 am to Negative Nomad
Difference here is I can accept if the cop is convicted and he killed a man. The other side will be rioting and burning shite down if he walks. The guy shot had a lengthy police record and wasn't a good guy fwiw.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:33 am to 23hella
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:36 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:37 am to Negative Nomad
CNN will have breaking news when it happens you can bet that. Everything leads with WHITE or Black now black and black killing don't even stiff breaking news or when black kills white. Media is the real problem in all this race war bullshite. Ignorance is the main word that needs to be stressed here also.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:40 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:08 am to accnodefense
I like how the car is getting farther away and yet the officer is standing still and no time is elapsing on the video. The guy pulls his door shut then within two seconds the officer shoots him in the face, 2 SECONDS.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 6:23 am to accnodefense
You people are out of your fricking minds. But you're also the same people that justified a cop jumping out of his car and blowing away a 12 year old, so I shouldn't be surprised.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 6:26 am to Tigerstudent08
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I like how the car is getting farther away and yet the officer is standing still and no time is elapsing on the video. The guy pulls his door shut then within two seconds the officer shoots him in the face, 2 SECONDS.
It really was amazing how quickly it escalated.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 7:39 am to Negative Nomad
quote:Wow. Maybe I'm wrong. You are actually this stupid.
Well, that might be possible if he wasn't already sitting. And in the video he fell over to this right. Good lord get your vision checked or at least watch the vid
If a foot is already above an accelerator, how much do you figure your body has to shift fur the weight of the foot to be on the accelerator?
And, interestingly, which way of falling over would be likely to cause the necessarily shift? Left, or right?
But hey. Maybe your theory that the guy kept pressing the accelerator after being shot in the face at point blank range it's the plausible one!!
fricking moron.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 7:46 am to JuiceTerry
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Come on, admit you've executed people for minor traffic violations.
I don't agree with what happened either but a minor traffic violation is not what got him shot.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 7:48 am to TigerHam85
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Had the man just listened to the officer, this could have all been prevented
In a country where the government uses their police force to routinely and unapologetically make arrests that almost always begin with 'a minor traffic stop' then trump up multiple charges, prosecute while withholding relevant evidence, imprison people for years, ruin lives and break up families all in order to make a profit, can you really blame someone for trying to run? Sorry but if someone can approach you and begin ordering you to do whatever they choose and you have to blindly follow every single order and also be nice or die.....can you really consider yourself free? Stop defending cops who shoot citizens of this nation. It's wrong. I don't know this guy so I don't know where his mind was and I don't know if he was a good person or not, but I know this - he did not deserve to die.
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a minor traffic violation is not what got him shot
An overzealous cop mentality is what got him shot. A mentality that 'I can order this person to do whatever I choose and if he disagrees or tries to run I will shoot him' is what got him shot. You can't shoot someone trying to run. It's not only cowardly, it's illegal and it's murder. The guy was just trying to get away. Not saying it's right, but he didn't deserve to die.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 7:52 am
Posted on 7/31/15 at 8:01 am to alajones
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So it's okay for a cop to kill a man whose simply trying to get away from him?
cop or not...if i'm carrying a gun and you try to run over me you're getting shot.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 8:02 am to DaTroof
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You can't shoot someone trying to run.
you can if he's dragging your arse with him
Posted on 7/31/15 at 8:05 am to accnodefense
The lesson of this story, kids, is don't try to run from a police officer when he has a gun pulled on you. 
Posted on 7/31/15 at 8:07 am to FalseProphet
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Oh, this analysis is so much better than the dozens of prosecutors, police experts, and officials who probably viewed the footage ad nausem prior to bringing charges.
Case over. Innocent.
What do you bet that the major analyses going on by the 'dozens of prosecutors, police experts and officials' was in how to prevent Ferguson/'Baltimore type riots?
The action of the DA in publicly pronouncing him guilty and the worst example he had ever seen says to me that the are more interested in placating potential protestors than they are in pursuing justice.
The officer may well be guilty of something - but a murder charge is stupid.
I am not discounting at all that the officer may have genuinely thought he was being dragged. Split second observations in a stressful situation are not always congruent with detailed analysis of slow motion playback studied for hours frame-by-frame.
What I find completely stupid is that an otherwise 'good cop' could go thru a complex thought process in that split second to the effect that:
- hey this guy is not complying
- hey, he is accelerating
- hey, If I play this right, I get to shoot me a black man and get away with it.
- I wonder if there are any eye-witnesses around to see my actions?
- hm - there are two cops behind me, but I am sure the 'good ol boy' network will protect me.
- screw it - what they hell - I may never get another chance to shoot a black.
- so long mfer - BANG!!!!
There is no doubt in my mind that the officer THOUGHT his life was in danger. Whether that is a reasonable conclusion is open to debate - and it bears a lot on the amount of training he had.
Manslaughter is the most serious charge he could possibly be culpable for.
I am more interested in what pattern of behavior this officer has exhibited in his prior experiences. That to me is what defines him as a 'bad' cop or not. If he has a patter of behavior that indicates he is abandonly reckless or radically biased or continuously abusive, then perhaps a higher charge could be sustained.
But in NO event should the DE be out there in public giving his personal opinions on the events.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 8:10 am to DaTroof
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In a country where the government uses their police force to routinely and unapologetically make arrests that almost always begin with 'a minor traffic stop' then trump up multiple charges, prosecute while withholding relevant evidence, imprison people for years, ruin lives and break up families all in order to make a profit, can you really blame someone for trying to run?
I've been pulled over probably 8-10 times in my life and none of that has ever happened to me because I have a valid driver's license, keep my tags/insurance up to date, comply with the cops, don't drive under the influence etc... Sure, it can be annoying but a little compliance and nothing to hide and you won't ever have to worry about stuff like that happening. It SHOULDN'T happen the way it did in this case but there are bad police officers just like there are bad people in all walks of life. However, even the worst aren't going to physically harm you or be completely unreasonable without any provocation whatsoever.
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An overzealous cop mentality is what got him shot
I agree that was obviously a major part of it.
However, two parties made major mistakes in those 5 seconds where it went from routine traffic stop to shooting. One has already paid dearly for it and the other likely will as well.
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