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'Bad police work' in Alton Sterling's death, but don't expect a conviction ...
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:33 am
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:33 am
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Five policing experts who reviewed the videos for The Advocate said the videos raised serious questions about the shooting, but most said it appeared unlikely that there's enough evidence to successfully bring a criminal case against Baton Rouge police officer Blane Salamoni, identified by a source as the policeman who fired the shots.
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Four of the five experts expressed concerns about the apparent aggressiveness of the officers in dealing with Sterling, a CD peddler outside the shop who police were informed was armed, with the fifth stressing that not enough has been publicly released to draw any conclusions. Several also questioned why officers fired stun guns and tackled Sterling, moves that potentially put the policemen in far greater danger and left them with no ability to safely retreat.
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But all said that without viewing the large amount of as-yet unreleased evidence — including 911 tapes, witness statements and several additional videos — it's impossible to draw definitive conclusions on the killing.
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Ken Williams, a police use of force expert and former homicide detective in Massachusetts, said watching the two videos raised a number of red flags.
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"Unlike most people in America, I've been involved in taking guns off of people, I've been shot at in the line of duty and I've had to shoot someone trying to take my life," said Williams, who now works as an expert witness. "Based on what's been released now, I don't like what I'm seeing."
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But Williams said that unless other unreleased recordings show the officers making derogatory comments, using racial epithets or callously speaking about Sterling's shooting — which might suggest criminal intent — he said both will likely face, at most, non-criminal administrative punishment. Without very clear evidence, Williams said, a prosecution in the shooting would be extremely difficult under standards set by the U.S. Supreme Court on what constitutes unlawful police conduct.
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:35 am to Will Cover
Please tell me they based that off the same videos that started after Sterling had been tased. Because that sure seems like what they did.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:37 am to Will Cover
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"Unlike most people in America, I've been involved in taking guns off of people, I've been shot at in the line of duty and I've had to shoot someone trying to take my life," said Williams, who now works as an expert witness. "Based on what's been released now, I don't like what I'm seeing."
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:37 am to Will Cover
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Several also questioned why officers fired stun guns and tackled Sterling, moves that potentially put the policemen in far greater danger and left them with no ability to safely retreat.
Well, what the frick were they supposed to do? Say pretty please?
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:37 am to Will Cover
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Five policing experts who reviewed the videos for The Advocate said the videos raised serious questions about the shooting, but most said it appeared unlikely that there's enough evidence to successfully bring a criminal case against Baton Rouge police officer Blane Salamoni, identified by a source as the policeman who fired the shots.
Lol this is a 10/10 in pandering to the ignorant masses. "The police were bad people but gosh-darnit we can't convict them bc of the white weapon called 'evidence'."
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:41 am to Will Cover
So they don't have the full story but are ok giving an opinion? Sounds very reckless and looks like the advocate is just trying to stir stuff back up to get some ad revenue.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:41 am to Will Cover
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Four of the five experts expressed concerns about the apparent aggressiveness of the officers in dealing with Sterling
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Several also questioned why officers fired stun guns and tackled Sterling, moves that potentially put the policemen in far greater danger and left them with no ability to safely retreat.
I said literally exactly this for days after this happened, and I got crushed by 90% of the posters in those threads, just crushed.
/pats self on back
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:42 am to shel311
quote:Because 5 "experts" who also admit to not having enough evidence agree with you?
/pats self on back
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:43 am to SabiDojo
quote:Why in the world would 5 experts, basically all of them feel the need to pander to anyone? That makes no sense.
Lol this is a 10/10 in pandering to the ignorant masses
It's the old if someone disagrees with me they're just lying or wrong response, you'll never lose an argument that way!!!
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:45 am to gatorhater08
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So they don't have the full story but are ok giving an opinion?
To be fair, they said it was based on the video currently available. But, you're right, most of the ignorant masses will gloss over that and move straight to the intended purpose of the article which is to say the cops are guilty but we just can't prove it.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:45 am to SabiDojo
The officers involved should have waited for additional units to arrive before attempting to tackle a man as large as Alton Sterling.
Alton had a gun but was not reaching for it until he was tackled. Had there been enough officers participating in the takedown, Alton would not have been able to overpower them and reach for his gun.
It isn't a criminal offense but certainly is poor tactics
Alton had a gun but was not reaching for it until he was tackled. Had there been enough officers participating in the takedown, Alton would not have been able to overpower them and reach for his gun.
It isn't a criminal offense but certainly is poor tactics
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 10:47 am
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:46 am to lsupride87
quote:I don't get your point?
Because 5 "experts" who also admit to not having enough evidence agree with you?
Are you stating you've never had an opinion on this incident, never posted one single thought on how this went down? If so, I concede.
If not, you're being hypocritical.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:46 am to Will Cover
I'm so sick of seeing this clowns story before every LSU game. make it stop
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:46 am to shel311
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shel311
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But all said that without viewing the large amount of as-yet unreleased evidence — including 911 tapes, witness statements and several additional videos — it's impossible to draw definitive conclusions on the killing.
You should read that part Mr. Expert
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:46 am to upgrayedd
quote:Exactly, he thought he was getting one over on me, but in reality, he whiffed.
To be fair, they said it was based on the video currently available
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:46 am to shel311
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I said literally exactly this for days after this happened, and I got crushed by 90% of the posters in those threads, just crushed.
So what should the cops have done after Sterling repeatedly refused to comply?
You seem to be the expert here.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:47 am to Will Cover
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Five policing experts who reviewed the videos for The Advocate said the videos raised serious questions about the shooting
I bet they did. Is one named Gary?
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:47 am to Tigeralum2008
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Had there been enough officers participating in the takedown, Alton would not have been able to overpower them and reach for his gun.
He reached for the gun and he's dead. Seems like it worked fine.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:47 am to shel311
quote:Ive said based on the video, it looks justified. You are talking about the taser incident, in which we havent seen anything on or have any clue how that went on.
I don't get your point?
Are you stating you've never had an opinion on this incident, never posted one single thought on how this went down? If so, I concede.
If not, you're being hypocritical.
That is not hypocritical
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 10:48 am
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:48 am to shel311
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Exactly, he thought he was getting one over on me, but in reality, he whiffed.
He wasn't even responding to you, dipshit.
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