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Austin & Houston Ranked Most Overvalued Housing Markets in U.S.

Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:10 pm
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:10 pm
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Looked at period from 2011-2014

Austin's Gross Metro Product 24%
Austin's appreciation in home prices 34%

Houston's Gross Metro Product 23%
Houston's appreciation in home prices 43%

Also from the article :
quote:

Not a bubble but certainly grew faster than the fundamentals.
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 12:26 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:11 pm to
and this just in... water is wet!
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:13 pm to
Ok. Whatever. Living in Austin, I agree with the figures. The cost of living also doesn't match the wages either.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167014 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:15 pm to
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Not a bubble



What? a 30-40% increase is the very definition of a bubble. Anything 7% and under is stable and average. 30-40% is a crash waiting to happen.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
78997 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:16 pm to
Austin, while a good place to live, has simply become vastly overrated and doesn't have the infrastructure or economy to support the number of people who want to be a part of it.

Economically I can see why a person would want to live in Houston, but specific industries aside, I can't see why anyone would choose Houston over Dallas.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:17 pm to
I think it is . Just quoting the article .. Houston's housing appreciation :yikes:
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21382 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:18 pm to
Wow! Texas overvaluing themselves. Imagine that!
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:19 pm to
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Whatever

just don't see the mystery, Houston: O&G industry creates a very artificial, dynamic economy with very broad swings of the pendulum, Austin: property values artificially driven up by companies relocating people, paying moving/closing costs, guaranteeing the sale of the homes they're leaving and sometimes paying bounses for the individual to sell it themselves and people moving in from areas such as California with a lot of $ overpaying for real estate
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:21 pm to
Surprised Nashville isn't on that list.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

has simply become vastly overrated and doesn't have the infrastructure or economy to support the number of people who want to be a part of it.


Exactly. Mopac's new project is a joke, the tolls have helped but still a cluster frick. Employers in Austin take advantage of so many people moving here so therefore they keep the wages down. Plus tons of californians are moving here and jacking up the cost of real estate. alot of them don't even work in Austin.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Surprised Nashville isn't on that list.


Yeah, but Phoenix managed to get back on this list.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20436 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Not a bubble but certainly grew faster than the fundamentals.


Not so sure about that. It might not pop soon, but I think you are probably sitting on a bubble.
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20697 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

vastly overrated

Eh, it's a pretty great place and there is a reason why it's one of the fastest growing cities in the country. But I agree that the cost of living doesn't really add up. Wages need to increase a ton to balance things out.

quote:

doesn't have the infrastructure

Yep. They need some kind of rail system and to rethink the whole design of how people get around.

quote:

or economy

Unemployment in Austin is one of the lowest in the country. I think the economy is doing just fine and will be fine.

But yes, the housing prices have got to come down. Demand is there for sure, but my house has appreciated 50-75% and I've owned it less than 5 years.
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57416 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:23 pm to
Austin has exploded in the last 3-4 years
Posted by BoatSchoolTiger
Houston, TX
Member since May 2013
659 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Houston: O&G industry creates a very artificial, dynamic economy with very broad swings of the pendulum,


The same can be said about:

Austin: tech industry creates a very artificial, dynamic economy with very broad swings of the pendulum

The "second dot com" bubble has created a bubble in Austin.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89798 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Austin, while a good place to live, has simply become vastly overrated and doesn't have the infrastructure or economy to support the number of people who want to be a part of it.


I disagree on the economy part, as I think we're well positioned for at least the next 5-7 years. Tech is still going strong, manufacturing is picking up, healthcare is getting stronger, and will continue to grow once the UT Med School opens, and the energy sector continues to grow.

That said, it has definitely become overrated. I mean, a fricking surf park is going in down by the airport.

A surf park.

In Austin.

The infrastructure is a problem, as we're screwed by having no East/West highway in this town, which causes issues for North/South. The lake also screws us a little in regards to building out more access to the Northshore.

Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

I mean, a fricking surf park is going in down by the airport.


I read that last week wtf.... I guess to satisfy all them Californians that surfed occasionally.
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 12:29 pm
Posted by BoatSchoolTiger
Houston, TX
Member since May 2013
659 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Employers in Austin take advantage of so many people moving here so therefore they keep the wages down



My company in Austin actually quotes Austin's quality of life as a benefit and therfor an excuse to pay less than the industry.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

My company in Austin actually quotes Austin's quality of life as a benefit and therfor an excuse to pay less than the industry.


We are in the same boat hoss. My employer does the same. Crazy.
Posted by Kingwood Tiger
Katy, TX
Member since Jul 2005
14162 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:26 pm to
Yep....our house value has gone way up since we bought in 2011, hopefully it will hold steady until the beginning of the year when we will be selling.
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