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re: At least half of students defaulted or failed to pay down debt within 7 years

Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:20 am to
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:20 am to
You missed an important comma there, bud.
Posted by PaperPaintball92
Fly Navy
Member since Aug 2010
5293 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:20 am to
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loan forgiveness program



College essentially becomes free when you do this. That wont work at all.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:21 am to
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No students need to honor their commitments and pay back the loan.



While I appreciate this sentiment, in many cases, we have a bunch of financially illiterate (thanks, public schooling) 18 year old kids who have had "YOU HAVE TO GO TO COLLEGE TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING WITH YOUR LIFE" shoved down their throats for 12 fricking years, and being quite rececptive to social pressure. Many do not get scholarships, and more do not have parents who can pay the ungodly sums required now, so they borrow without realizing the ROI of their degree or how bad of a situation they are putting themselves in.
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
4191 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:21 am to
It's kind of ridiculous to take out massive loans for undergrad in the first place. If the parents can't afford the school and you can't get scholarships, then go to a cheaper school or go to a community college for two years before transferring. Graduate school or professional school is a different story because scholarships are hard to come by plus hopefully you're setting yourself up to make a good income with which to pay off those loans.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21406 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:21 am to
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We need a student loan forgiveness program.


Can I get the money I paid for my college education reimbursed to me, please? What the frick is the difference?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:22 am to
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That being said cost of college is outrageous and it's growing rapidly. Something needs to be done and quickly.
Government backed/easy-to-get loans are the problem. There is literally zero incentive to keep costs down or to even limit enrollment. The school gets their money no matter what with no consequences if a student drops out or can't pay his/her $100k loan for a history degree.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:22 am to
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Thoughts?


Why the hell am I paying my student loan back?
Posted by shotcaller1
Member since Oct 2014
7501 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:23 am to
How do you go 7 years without paying and having anything happen to you?

These art pansies better have the govt taking money out of their checks for this.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:23 am to
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Thoughts


Offer a dumb 18-22 year old a government backed loan he doesn't have to start paying until after he graduates and tell the school that they can charge whatever they want because there is no limit to the loan amount and you end up with some serious issues.

Schools need to tighten enrollment and evaluate waste.

With 100% approved government backed loans schools have become bloated in every aspect.

And you get kids coming out into a job force expecting years of experience.

You can't take an entry level job making 40-50k if you have 20k a year loan payments which leads to all kind so other problems.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 10:27 am
Posted by Mir
Member since Sep 2016
2777 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:24 am to
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Offer a dumb 18-22 year old a government backed loan he doesn't have to start paying until after he graduates and tell the school that they can charge whatever they want because there is no limit to the loan amount and you end up with some serious issues.






This is exactly why I'm paying my nephews tuition. He barely got his citizenship before he was getting letters in the mail daily for loans and credit cards.

We got him a credit card in his name and I pay it in full.

They prey on the youth to get into debt and own your soul forever. It's absolutely abhorrent. When citizens do it it's loan sharking but when a bank does it everyone recommends it.

And to emphasize how fricked this practice is the OTers at the Houston get together can attest to how poor his English is
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 10:28 am
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8491 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:25 am to
Cut at least half the Universities in the US and allow only the cream of the to attend while also getting rid of useless degree programs like gender studies and liberal arts. Then build up trade and technical schools to build a better workforce. Next ensure that Student Loans are not government backed. Doing this will stop the madness of allowing 18 year olds to mortgage their future for a degree program that will not be worth it in the long run and it will also force kids to think about how much student loans they will take. The US needs to approach education differently and not sell the "college experience."
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
4191 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:25 am to
Federal loan forgiveness already is a thing. It's called Public Service Loan Forgiveness, and you qualify if you work for a 501(c)(3) organization for 10 years and make 120 qualifying payments (monthly payments for 10 years). Once you make the 120 payments, the remainder of the loan is forgiven as long as you worked for a 501(c)(3) organization the entire time.
Posted by shotcaller1
Member since Oct 2014
7501 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:25 am to
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need a student loan forgiveness program. It is long overdue.


It's called death or permanent disability.

Get that shite out of here
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
25182 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:26 am to
What's the process for doing that? I work for a nonprofit
Posted by ATLTigerbb
Atlanta GA
Member since Jul 2009
180 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:26 am to
Student loans are set up for failure. Here let's lend money to someone with no credit history, no work history and no idea what they will end up doing if they actually graduate.

Then the loan is set up without having to make payments for years, but its accruing interest daily.

Why not make someone actually qualify and repay the debt immediately. I can't buy a car, house or get a credit card without expecting to start paying it back.

Let's face it, college isn't for everyone. And as grandpa used to say... world needs ditch diggers too.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51235 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:26 am to
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attend while also getting rid of useless degree programs like gender studies and liberal arts


There is nothing useless at all about liberal arts.

University isn't a job training program.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61108 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:26 am to
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We need a student loan forgiveness program. It is long overdue.


Would love it, but it's simply not realistic and sets a bad precedent for future programs of similar type.
Posted by PaperPaintball92
Fly Navy
Member since Aug 2010
5293 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:27 am to
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"YOU HAVE TO GO TO COLLEGE TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING WITH YOUR LIFE" shoved down their throats for 12 fricking years,




Very good point. There are great jobs that pay well and don't require a degree. Also, there are plenty of jobs that will pay for you to earn a technical degree while you work.
Posted by tigerite
Member since Dec 2016
136 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:28 am to
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College essentially becomes free when you do this. That wont work at all.


If we were an enlightened country, we'd have free college and vocational education. Not everyone needs a college education.

I was lucky and was able to pay all my expenses without any assistance. But, I know I'm one of the lucky ones. Most people cannot afford college at this point. And, with universal free college, tuition at private schools would go down.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
44077 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:28 am to
personal finance really needs to be taught in high school.

most graduating seniors have ZERO clue to the consequences of their actions in regards to personal financial decisions.

colleges and the feds enjoy preying on the ignorant though, so this won't change
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