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re: And another...10 Commandments Monument to b taking down in Oklahoma

Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:47 pm to
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:47 pm to
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And another...10 Commandments Monument to b taking down in Oklahoma



You would never expect that from a state where Obama didn't even win a single county. Goes to show what happens when we let judges become tyrants.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55428 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:52 pm to
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You would never expect that from a state where Obama didn't even win a single county. Goes to show what happens when we let judges become tyrants.


While judicial activism is one of my least favorite things, I am not finding much fault with this ruling.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36389 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:54 pm to
If anything, judges pushing religious monuments are the activists. Look at that dunce Roy Moore and tell me he's not the epitome of a judicial activist.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55428 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:56 pm to
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Look at that dunce Roy Moore and tell me he's not the epitome of a judicial activist.


Or his son, who was paid six figures to be on the board of a 'Christian values' non-profit, while tweeting about 'getting fat stacks from dad' and 'hanging out with my ni**as'.
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 8:57 pm
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6069 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:09 pm to
Be specific: taken down from government property in Oklahoma. The 10 Commandments contain some universal moral truths, and some theology.
this is not a theocracy, despite what the protestant fundamentalists demand.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18817 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:12 pm to
You white boys can't win shite no mo. I sure am glad I'm Choctaw.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22034 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:16 pm to
How about this one? Mockery of the Iwo Jima flag raising moment.

Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:18 pm to
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Ridiculous that was there anyway.

It's a state capital building. We are not a theocracy.



All of this.
Posted by Jtigers99
Holly Beach, USA
Member since Dec 2014
1841 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:20 pm to
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The separation of Chruch and State is pretty clearly outlined in the Constitution.

It's a shame you don't know the Constitution and only spout off things you've always heard. Congress cannot establish religion or prohibit the free exercise of religion.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:23 pm to
Why does this offend you? Does this offend you as well?

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55428 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:25 pm to
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It's a shame you don't know the Constitution and only spout off things you've always heard. Congress cannot establish religion or prohibit the free exercise of religion.


It could be very easily argued that having a religious symbol on state grounds is equivalent to the establishment of religion.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36389 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:27 pm to
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It's a shame you don't know the Constitution and only spout off things you've always heard. Congress cannot establish religion or prohibit the free exercise of religion.



Yea...and the Judiciary has never once expanded upon the handful of words in the First Amendment..ever
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:27 pm to


Birmingham had them beat decades ago...and ours is in front of a church.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
27974 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:28 pm to
"Separation of church and state" (sometimes "wall of separation between church and state") is a phrase used by Thomas Jefferson and others expressing an understanding of the intent and function of the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Since the First Amendment clearly places the restrictions solely on the state, some argue a more correct phrase would be the "separation of state FROM church". Either way, the "separation" phrase has since been repeatedly used by the Supreme Court of the United States.

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that and Article VI specifies that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." The modern concept of a wholly secular government is sometimes credited to the writings of English philosopher John Locke, but the phrase "separation of church and state" in this context is generally traced to a January 1, 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson, addressed to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut, and published in a Massachusetts newspaper.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116064 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:40 pm to
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How about this one? Mockery of the Iwo Jima flag raising moment.


That is awful and really minimizes the sacrifices the loss of life that occurred on Iwo Jima. But, it has nothing to do with the separation of church and state.

What is crazy to me, is that the decision to make gay marriage legal is actually one of the most conservative decisions the court has made in years. A small minority of the population has been denied the rights afforded to the majority by the states in which they reside. It is the absolute right thing to do and a truly conservative ruling.

#americaspromise
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22030 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:42 pm to
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Let's start putting gov't stuff on church properties.



Like voting precincts and disaster response centers?
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41811 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:42 pm to
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There are a good deal of reasons to be concerned - the lack of a religious monument on the grounds of the state capitol in Oklahoma are not among them.


Anything with values and God is being attacked by miserable humans, that have an agenda, for no reason other than to be miserable.

Values and Honor made this Country great and the fiber, of what made America strong, is being demolished by idiots.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:46 pm to
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I think we need to change the name of San Francisco to just "Frank", wanting to be consistent and all


Frank is too gender specific. How about Francis?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55428 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:47 pm to
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Anything with values and God is being attacked by miserable humans, that have an agenda, for no reason other than to be miserable.

Values and Honor made this Country great and the fiber, of what made America strong, is being demolished by idiots.


The Abrahamic God and moral values are not inextricably linked, for the record.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36389 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:56 pm to
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Anything with values and God is being attacked by miserable humans, that have an agenda, for no reason other than to be miserable.

Values and Honor made this Country great and the fiber, of what made America strong, is being demolished by idiots.



This 10 Commandments monument in question has been on the OK Supreme Court grounds since 2012, all of three years (if that), yet you make it sound like people are tearing down the Statue of Liberty.
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