Admiral Warns: Russian Subs Waging Cold War-Style ‘Battle of the Atlantic’

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We will pass through the American patrols, past their sonar nets

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They think they will anyways...meanwhile there's a 688 about 500 yards back waiting to shove an ADCAP up their arse

And they didn't even know we were there

Yeah. Other than the 10000 nuclear warheads they have

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pretty serious stuff. I heard they just launched a new submarine that was diesel powered. Dear Putin, the west won the cold war.

In all seriousness, they probably will need all the subs they can manage when LNG transports start making their way from the US to Europe.

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Russia has a reputation for building great submarines but their maintenance and sonar systems have never been on the same level as the USN

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Russia is harmless

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So are lawyers seeking frivolous lawsuits

Such a valid analogy, buddy. Good job.

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I heard they just launched a new submarine that was diesel powered.

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This may sound like outdated technology but using a diesel/electric system is extremely quiet and hard to detect. In fact, they can be far more quiet than a nuke sub.

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The Navy in recent months has had to contend with several provoking episodes at sea — Iranian small boats speeding at its cruisers, destroyers and frigates; Russian bombers flying over its carriers; and Chinese subs shadowing its warships.

Hard-to-detect submarines — such as quiet, diesel-electric boats — are particularly vexing, Navy officials say. They contend that an undersea arms race already has begun in the western Pacific.

Nations there in recent years have begun to acquire stealthy diesel-electric submarines. Some of those nations, say Navy officials, could one day threaten U.S. access to strategic coastal areas of the world or interrupt the flow of commerce around the globe.

Although the Navy has the world’s most technologically advanced fleet — including state-of-the-art nuclear attack submarines — officials acknowledge that these comparatively low-tech diesel-electric boats could give an enemy an asymmetric advantage.

“The beauty about a diesel submarine is that it has the potential to be far quieter than a nuclear submarine,” says Guy Stitt, president of AMI International, a Bremerton, Wash.-based company specializing in naval market analysis. Diesel boats are propelled by batteries when submerged and move through the water by diesel engines when on the surface.

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I LOVE the fact that China and Russia are modernizing their subs. It's gives the US fast attack sub force more missions than simply being attached to a carrier battle group.

I would have loved going on a North Atlantic deployment chasing Russian subs as they left port or went under the ice cap. Unfortunately, I served from 96 to 00 when the Great Red Fleet was gutted. My deployments were always being a forward picket for a CBG. We did spend sometime in 00 waiting to launch TLAMs at Al Qaeda in Afghanistan but never got the orders.

We're at war with Eastasia. We've always been at war with Eastasia.

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I LOVE the fact that China and Russia are modernizing their subs. It's gives the US fast attack sub force more missions than simply being attached to a carrier battle group. I would have loved going on a North Atlantic deployment chasing Russian subs as they left port or went under the ice cap. Unfortunately, I served from 96 to 00 when the Great Red Fleet was gutted. My deployments were always being a forward picket for a CBG. We did spend sometime in 00 waiting to launch TLAMs at Al Qaeda in Afghanistan but never got the orders.

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I know a dude who was a sub mariner back in the 70's and 80's. Some of the stories he's told me of the cat and mouse games they use to play with Soviet boats were fascinating.